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Audit finds $787 billion in stimulus not being used for intended purpose...

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posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 01:36 PM
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A lot of the people getting caught in our traffic snag are from New Mexico. I'm located far south in Colorado about 50 miles from Raton. Right now it's the southbound lanes that are closed, after labor day it will be the northbound. Lather, rinse, repeat.

I am at the crossroads of I-25 & US160 west. We have always had crazy summer traffic during tourist season but nothing compared to this.

We can't take much more stimulating. Great thread
You know it wouldn't be a bad idea for people to report on stimulus projects in their areas. I doubt any of you would have ever heard of what's going on in my neck of the woods. We have two weekly newspapers we are so far south in the state no one pays attention to us except when they want to swoop in and make some money.

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posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 02:48 PM
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You have to learn the terminology.

'Stimulus plan' = State Bailout.

California did not try to hide the fact that the stimulus moneys would be used to keep the state afloat. Shock and surprise when California is about to go under again that they need porkulus package #2.

I used to love my nation.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 03:06 PM
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I am AMAZED they got the FHWA to sign off on that, absolutely amazed. I'm a professionally licensed Civel Engineer, specializing transportation and I have NEVER heard of the feds approving diversion of interstate traffic entirely onto local streets. Frontage roads, maybe... but even on the one project I've worked on where that was approved the FHWA fine tooth combed the plan to make absolutely certain that there was no other recourse for detours. Hell, we can't even get them to approve reduction of speed below 35 MPH inside the workzone on any federal highway projects inside an interstate corridor. As for the radioactive waste thing, I recall the hoops the state had to jump through (I did part of my EIT in New Mexico, where I am from) just to get I-25 listed as a WIPP transportation route, not to mention the fact that a handfull of cities ultimately fought in court and won the right to forbid the trucks from coming through their city limits all together.

Something fishy is going on where you are at. I'm guessing some palms have been greased.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 03:18 PM
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That's exactly the problem. The states instead of using the money for it's intended purpose which was to create those "shovel ready" jobs instead used the money to prop up their own failed budgets.

If they had used the money to get people to work instead the state taxes raised from all the jobs created would start turning state budgets around. That way the economy actually is stimulated. Each person that received a check from a job that used stimulus money would turn around and help their own local economies. Instead these states idiotically just threw the money into the budgetary black hole never to be seen again and all it did was shore up short term losses and did nothing for long term stimulus the way that if they would have stuck to the plan would have.

It was a stupid plan to begin with and now thanks to misappropriation it is going to be a huge burden on taxpayers in the long run without any new stimulus generated income tax to help offset the spending.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 04:25 PM
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Here in my town they are repaving the two-lane highway that was just resurfaced a few years ago and there is/was nothing wrong with it to need a repaving already. No potholes or anything wrong with it. I should know I travel it everyday. Why are they wasting the money to repave a road that doesn't need it?



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 05:55 PM
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They are redoing one of the bridges hear in Tampa with Stimulus funds but they announced there will not be sufficient work to hire anyone and to tell people to stop applying.

And the work will not begin till 2011.

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posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 02:47 AM
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You know it is amazing what they get away with down here. The only thing that might allow for this is the sparse population Idk. Lots of palm greasing goes on down here anyway. We've got a whole other case pending concerning tributary waters and coalbed methane drilling. They've been bad boys for a while but have bought local politicians.

The interstate job is overseen by CDOT. The trucks carrying radioactive waste congregate at a large truck stop and leave together first escorted by county police then city. There's usually 2 or 3 trucks at one time and they parade their way right through town.

Small town, economically depressed, corrupt politicians not enough votes or voices. No we're like a "vein" occasionally tapped by corporate leeches all scrambling around trying to get their share. Seems they keep dreaming up new ways to bleed cash & resources from this area.

Here's a link to one of the local papers huerfanojournal.com... and an article about possible stimulus funds to be used another way not sure what to think about this I don't really trust the local government to do right by the people we'll see...


WALSENBURG- Certified appraiser Ivor Hill came before the Walsenburg City Council Tuesday evening at Councilman Bruce Quintana’s behest to outline a federal stimulus program called the Neighborhood Stabilization Program, which basically allows for city governments to apply for grant money to purchase foreclosed or abandoned homes, fix them up, and sell them. The purpose is to (just like the name says) stabilize neighborhoods with many empty homes in it.


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I have NEVER heard of the feds approving diversion of interstate traffic entirely onto local streets. Frontage roads, maybe...


I'm sitting here not knowing what to make of that. Unless because it's stimulus money they have carte blanche. Thanks for your professional opinion much appreciated.


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posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 03:05 AM
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The way I see it it's more like

Stimulus plan = New and more profitable ways for the greedy to skim money.

The state of Colorado has said they are not projecting any cuts and in fact plan on hiring. So there's going to be lots of stimulus money to steal.. I mean utilize.



posted on Jul, 9 2009 @ 03:12 AM
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You know we can't figure it out either. We know how bad those bridge columns are. I mean it was a horrible fiery crash at high speed with a fully loaded semi. I know the ramp is short but it's not going to give way and crash down on the state highway below.




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