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Topic started on 8-7-2009 @ 05:49 AM by sunny_2008ny

N. Korea believed behind cyber attacks

www.breitbart.com

South Korean intelligence officials believe North Korea or pro-Pyongyang forces in South Korea committed cyber attacks that paralyzed major South Korean and U.S. Web sites, a lawmaker's aide said Wednesday.

On Wednesday, the National Intelligence Service told a group of South Korean lawmakers it believes that North Korea or North Korean sympathizers in the South "were behind" the attacks, according to an aide to one of the lawmakers briefed on the information.

(visit the link for the full news article)

reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 05:49 AM by sunny_2008ny

This is the best news I have seen in some time on those cyberattacks. So now North Korea is behind this. Then maybe Iran is also involved ?

I dont know how true this is about North Korea being involved, but I think that ther recent attacks could have been done by the backing of the North Korean government.

North Korea has nothing to gain from this, but still denial of service attacks (which are difficult to achieve) could be just a pleasure point for the North Korean government.

What fuels suspicion on North Korea is that US and South Korean websites were targetted. Why target both at the same time? And why not other countries?

www.breitbart.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 06:10 AM by heineken

now this is some news...

if i remember well..obama was urging to invest in cyber security...as if they knew what Nk had in mind..

We must take cyber warfare very seriously because once you infiltrate your software you can pratically even shutdown many defence systems or maybe get top secrets documents and threthen with them

reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 06:16 AM by Karlhungis

reply to post by heineken

if i remember well..obama was urging to invest in cyber security...as if they knew what Nk had in mind..

That isn't where my mind went. My initial (and current) thought was, they were urging it and they did this themselves to further their agenda. I have an easier time believing that we would "false flag" something like this, than I would believe that North Korea would be capable of it.

Anything is possible but it serves our own governments agenda to allow it to happen, whereas it is all risk and no reward for North Korea.

reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 06:22 AM by Solomons

Well N.korea couldn't do this themselves..imo anyway,but i dont know much about N.korea in that regard.My guess is that China let them tap into their vast cyber spy ring for some fun.

reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 06:39 AM by bonsaisert

The author of this article has written at least 11 other articles speculating over the "tensions" in North Korea, some of which have been in The Independent and The Guardian.

I would not consider this alternative news, This is what they feed white collars.

My speculation...U.S. did it.

reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 06:48 AM by deessell

This has to be some kind of joke, right? Does anyone here really believe that there are people in the government in North Korea that have the technological knowledge for this kind of operation. 99% of the population don't even know that the internet exists.

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reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 06:48 AM by sunny_2008ny

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My speculation...U.S. did it.

I dont think the US would do it as a false flag. They have nothing to gain from it, not even from blaming North Korea. Besides these websites were important government websites, and it was July 4.

reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 06:54 AM by Karlhungis

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What do you mean they have nothing to gain from it? This gives plenty of validation for their wishes to overhaul the internet, remove any and all anonymity, and for an added bonus it can be perceived as an attack by one of the founding members of "the axis of evil." The US has everything to gain from this.

reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 07:02 AM by Solomons

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I think a country that can build a nuclear bomb has the know how when it comes to technology.Like i said though,if it was them i'd think China's recently exposed vast cyber network acoss most of the world would help them achieve this.Then again this article could just be a bunch of BS.

reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 07:06 AM by sunny_2008ny

The Yonhap, the official SOuth Korean news agency and Xinuha the chinese news agency are now reporting this, quoting the South Korean intelligence, it will be allover MSM in a few hours. That may lend some credibility to the North Korean angle

Here is a link to Xinhua article

news.xinhuanet.com...

This is in USA Today
www.usatoday.com...

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reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 07:10 AM by no1dea

Originally posted by sunny_2008ny
The Yonhap, the official SOuth Korean news agency and Xinuha the chinese news agency are now reporting this, quoting the South Korean intelligence, it will be allover MSM in a few hours. That may lend some credibility to the North Korean angle

Here is a link to Xinhua article

news.xinhuanet.com...

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Well we have coverage of this starting on skynews uk about half hour ago, but not at length. Still banging on about g8 -1!

A "massive" cyber attack which shut down the websites of several US and South Korean government agencies was carried out by North Korea, intelligence officials in the South say.
Skynews

A widespread computer attack has hit several US government agencies while some South Korean government websites also appear to be affected.
BBC

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reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 07:17 AM by Foppezao

Why dont you believe NK is behind this? Do you think NK is still stuck in the 1950's? Ever since the 50-'s they have been thinking about what the Achilles' heel is of the US and its allies, and that is communication.MIL connected to the internet, and possibly an EMP attack on the entire grid.It is like a little dwarf throwing sand in the eyes of the giant..But its the only thing that works for them

reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 07:22 AM by Karlhungis

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I don't believe North Korea is behind this for the same reason that I don't believe that Al Qaeda was behind 9/11. Who has the most to gain with these attacks? In my mind, the US government does.

reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 07:27 AM by mkross1983

reply to post by sunny_2008ny

I already knew NK would be blamed for the exact reason you listed. US and SK sites were attacked.

They want it to seem obvious who it was. I hardly doubt it was NK.

Do they even have computers?

lol

reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 07:29 AM by mkross1983

reply to post by sunny_2008ny

They had nothing to gain from killing 3k+ people too....

reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 07:42 AM by sunny_2008ny

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They want it to seem obvious who it was. I hardly doubt it was NK.

I think the real culprits will never be caught, and they will get away with it. It will be interesting to see what the investigations come out with.

These cybercrimes are very difficult to crack and even your or my IP address can be hijacked to commit these crimes.

I remember a case in India during the Mumbai attacks, an American living in Mumbai had his IP address hijacked and the terrorists then sent out an email from that IP address.

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reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 07:48 AM by mkross1983

reply to post by sunny_2008ny

Probably nothing will be done about it.

Either NK will be blamed if they think they can get away with it but probably not. They will just unanimously pass a bill to change the internet to monitor every American like others have said.

reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 07:54 AM by Pyros

The two biggest cyber threats to the US and the EU are the following:

1. China. China turns a blind eye to a very, very large community of "hackers" who live inside mainland China. In China, hackers are like rock stars, with web sites and blogs that document their exploits. The Chinese government and military don't necessarily provide direct support to these people, but they certainly don't do anything to interfere with their activities either. As long as they focus their activities "outward" and not "inward". It has been rumored that these people and groups are for hire....

2. Russian organized crime groups. Again, adept at cyber crime and living in a country with little or no law enforcement interest, as long as they are stealing from outside mother Russia.

These result is 2 groups with savvy, expertise and capabilities that can and do attack US systems. They also have more than one motive, some being monetary, some political, some ideological, etc.

It would be very easy for a fat cat NK General to go to Russian or China with a suitcase of cash and hire others to attack the US.

The "false flag" and government conspiracy theories are pretty funny, but ultimately I find them irrational and without merit.

reply posted on 8-7-2009 @ 07:57 AM by mkross1983

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I like this idea and this does seem possible.

But the US could also had "agents" do the same.

I know a lot of ppl don't think the US Governement could ever do anything bad to it's people but if you look back throughout history there are many cases where the government was ready and willing to kill innocent Americans to get their objectives accomplished.

There is a lot of evidence to support these views.

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