posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 01:16 AM
Well, I must also disagree with your either/or dialectic. I will say this, and I am not speaking for Islam or Christianity (at least not in the
mundane varieties you tend to find (perhaps Gnosticism and Suffism, although I am more a fan of the latter than the former personally).
Mysticism itself is a vital aspect to the "Abrahamic" faiths, as you are so fond of referring to them. Think of it this way, as is brought down
in Jewish Mysticism (I'm talking the actual stuff, not some cult that Madonna or whoever follows)-- there is but one Singularity that exists. You
can generically call that God, and the pantheist will call it "the Universe." I don't see much difference here, other than some territorial
squabbles, from people caught in some semantic quagmire, of whatever particular variety. The point here, as far as I see it, and forgive me, I am
only offering my opinion-- is that there is one organic SINGULARITY that exists, and from it all of Creation is manifest and sustained.
Now, I understand that some people like to anthropomorphosize (sp?) this concept and like to attribute human characteristics to It. well, let's
look at the history of religion and mythology in the human experience. To be fair, if you get to the core of what Abraham actually taught, He was
about *experiencing* the *reality* of "God," not believing in abstract concepts. God was not a person, which the OT is adamant about stating-
Exodus anyone?). So whatever that meant to him, as a historical welcomer to strangers and guests, it seems that he taught meditational practices of
an experiential nature to his guests. Now, it's open to anyone's interpretation what exactly he was trying to express the reality of, some say it
was less of a "being" and more of the nature/fabric of the space-time continuum.
Abraham believed there was a underlying consciousness to the Universe, and that this outer manifestation was perhaps akin to a body, but there was
ultimately a "Mind" behind it. That's actually the origins of the ancient Hebrew concept of "God." Now let's look at the Greeks, they had Gods
that were humans, or part human, or always coming down and mating with human women. The emphasis, which makes sense when you look at Greek philosophy
in general; there is a distinct emphasis on humanity. Is it any surprise that Christianity, which is perhaps more Greek than it could ever be
considered Hebrew, insists that God was/is a Man. The Trinity is a sad example of fusing Jewish Monotheism with Greek Polytheism.
Well, to simplify everything, in terms of the original cosmology of Abraham, he believed that the only thing that actually exists is this
"over-mind" of sorts, this unseen aspect which transcends and manifests this "physical world." To Abraham, the only thing that exists is "God"
(which is not a name, it is a title, an abstract concept created by humans). So we exist either as figments of the Divine Imagination, or as some
necessary element that is structurally and integrally created to work within a holistic system and perhaps in some small way allows (although I don't
want my use of this term to be misunderstood) this Greater System to function in the way it's Architect intends. So, as a result, there is no
There is no self-hood in an absolute sense, there is only a totality beyond our conception. The whole "Angry Bearded Guy in the Sky" thing, or
the dying "we have to eat his body and drink his blood or else we burn in hell eternally" concepts are equally just man projecting it's weird and
limited understanding/fear onto the very fabric of nature. I guess what I'm saying is, that your two choices are a false dialectic, there is only
one Reality, but it is so infinitely complex that we will never understand it, and by virtue of it's infinitude we exist as semi-autonomous beings.
I say semi-autonomous, because at the Universal level, everything is connected into a vast Ecumenical system.