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Humming Bird Crop Circle Is Man Made - Proof

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posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:01 AM
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This is what he said about making them:



Planning each job involves (1) choosing a suitable field from previous aerial observation, deciding where to park the vehicles (2) cutting a few nylon cords, with knots along them at critical points in the pattern (3) use of 4ft rollers made from large diameter plastic gas pipe (the type they put under roads), capped on one end, with a short thru rope to be dragged round the waist behind the circle maker. On arrival at the field the tube is filled with earth to make it heavier, then capped the other end. Second rope held in hand at one knot position with assistant in middle; walk round each circle only takes 10 mins, then still dragging the roller, walk off to next knot along the main cord. Men locate other critical positions for arcs etc, send cords to other men, roll out the design, all finished in an hour or so, then back to base /home before the cock crows. Bigger patterns are usually symmetrical and can be done in sections by members of the group. The one at Milk Hill aug 2001 for example, took 8 men 3 hours to finish in the rain, but still a much easier job than killing iraquis in the desert.



Pretty straight forward to me. Some of you need to read the entire topic that was the first link in the O.P.




posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:02 AM
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If this one is Man Made as you have found out then contact LMH at Earth Files and at least let her know you have proof that this Crop Circle was made at night by people .

Will you do this ?



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:03 AM
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Earlier in the thread the guy said that at night the crops are more wet, and they are soft and really easy to push down. Unlike in the day where they are dried and hard.

Also, when you damage crops by bending them, that disrupts the flow of water to the "nodes" and they dry out and expand in the Sun.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:05 AM
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I never thought of that, but it makes sense!

It really makes sense.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by ALLis0NE
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Here is a quote from the person who claimed to make the crop circle in the o.p.



For many years our colleagues have been making crop-circles for profit round the Wiltshire area where we live. Some of us started as pranksters back in 1990, then following a rise in requests to pilots in our group of light aircraft owners for flights over the fields, we realised there was a fair amount of money to be made from the rich people who came from all over the world, eager for information about “the aliens”.


Sounds like a pretty detailed explanation. Why would he make that particular story up?

So, he is in a group of light aircraft owners, and rich people from all over the world interested in crop circles pay him for flights over the fields.

Sounds intricate, and random, and believable. I don't have any reason to doubt it. It's one possible explanation.

[edit on 8-7-2009 by ALLis0NE]


Possible, but not probable.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:10 AM
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I read that thread at first i thought maybe but the more i thought about it the more i just did not believe him.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
just do not buy it need more proof than this sorry.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:12 AM
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I agree,that if the pro CC guys hear read the posts from top to bottom,allot of things make sence..

Enough sence were if this guys dolphin is the next one or so,its over wheling proof that at least some thought to be done by aliens,are infact done by humans...

My personal opinion is the vast majority is done by humans,either for strict tomfoolery or a moneymaker..



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:15 AM
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Just a thought, after the HUGE deal made about the misleading title "biggest sunspot ever", why isn't anyone making a fuss about the title of this thread.. (no offense), as we've been provided evidence - but not proof..




posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by grapesofraft
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Awesome job showing even more proof that all crop circles are man made, then people scam everybody with their websites by making some big ole story up about what they mean. You are a credit to ATS and Denying Ignorance. I am glad that you are here.

[edit on 7-7-2009 by grapesofraft]



That proves THIS one is man made...........And I'll be honest, it's one of the least impressive ones ever.......So way to be close minded..........

" Uh O a black man dunked a basketball, I guess they all can"

" Uh Oh a White guy is racist, that must mean they all are"

That is pretty much what you are saying with those comments.........


I wish people would come forward about the more complex crop circles........would be more interesting......



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by grapesofraft
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Awesome job showing even more proof that all crop circles are man made, then people scam everybody with their websites by making some big ole story up about what they mean. You are a credit to ATS and Denying Ignorance. I am glad that you are here.

[edit on 7-7-2009 by grapesofraft]



Deny ignorance.......starting with your post.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by grapesofraft
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Awesome job showing even more proof that all crop circles are man made, then people scam everybody with their websites by making some big ole story up about what they mean. You are a credit to ATS and Denying Ignorance. I am glad that you are here.

[edit on 7-7-2009 by grapesofraft]


This one ok was man made but that doesnt account for ALL the others out there. I believe many are man made but I also believe others cant be explained. They admitted to one, what about ALL the others? How about that?? If aliens did make the others they arent exactly going to sign up on ATS and say hey we did it!



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:18 AM
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I was talking about some research I once saw in a documentary, done by people who are paid a lot of money to investigate these things. They had computers, chemistry equipment, etc., ie they were prepared for the job.

Assuming their research is valid (I would have to find it and watch it again to remember all the details they offered, but watching them was enough to convince me at the time), they found several phenomena men with planks can't accomplish. The more interesting of which seemed to involve microwave radiation phenomena, and they were convinced the mechanism that bent the plants over was related to that and not to stomping. There were also distributions of metal spheroids in the soil samples taken from formations that weren't found in control samples and that had odd distributions around and throughout the formations.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:19 AM
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Well... mabey their not all man made, but they probably are. If humans can make this then making any other crop circle that has been made recently would be a cinch.

i can kind of see how they do it. start with a lot of circle cut outs in the right places and connect the dots. you can even see the rings of circles leading to the center in particular spots.

i dont know how its done, but it certainly doesn't look alien.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:20 AM
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I think the UFO "community" should start to distance themselves from crop circles now. It's becoming increasingly obvious (if it wasn't already) that 100% of crop circles are human made. I bet if the OP had posted that photo of the humming bird crop circle as proof of alien life, he'd have had dozens of responses from eager believers "starring and flagging" a wonderful find...and then he could have pulled out the debunking evidence and watched everybody go quiet...


Seriously though, I find it interesting that people are so desperate to believe in this crop circle rubbish. Why? What is their agenda? Makes you wonder if the crop circle hoaxers themselves are amongst us...



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by Redpillblues

Originally posted by Nventual
Good for you. At least that makes you feel better just walking blindly through life with no faith in what could be 'out there'. I guess one man-made crop circle explains everything.

I think the OP has done a great job bringing this to attention..BUT

There is a big difference in faith an blind faith..



There is also a big difference between FACT and ignorant assumption too..We also need to be aware of this.......

So many people believe that was is " mainstream " knowledge is full 100% correct when they themselves can not prove it, they are relying on somebody else to figure it out for them........


Just keep an open mind people.........Remember balance...

For ever man made crop , there is one that can NOT be explained away so easily....


This is one of the least complex ones in the past couple years too so lets see them up their skill level on the next few and compare...



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:24 AM
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Maybe for the same reasons they believe in God, UFO's or aliens?
One thing about crop circles is you have a physical thing to look at , examine, visit, kinda gives you something when you do.




[edit on 8-7-2009 by mirare]



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by 0nce 0nce

Originally posted by Mer Ka Bah
But, I can assure you, 'the Avebury crop circle team' did not produce many of the formations over the May, June and July period.


How can you assure me that? Do you have any evidence other than links to crop circle promoters?



So you blindly except they made them all as man made by these guys ?

Without EVIDENCE ?

Hmmm



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by bsbray11
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I was talking about some research I once saw in a documentary, done by people who are paid a lot of money to investigate these things. They had computers, chemistry equipment, etc., ie they were prepared for the job.

Assuming their research is valid (I would have to find it and watch it again to remember all the details they offered, but watching them was enough to convince me at the time), they found several phenomena men with planks can't accomplish. The more interesting of which seemed to involve microwave radiation phenomena, and they were convinced the mechanism that bent the plants over was related to that and not to stomping. There were also distributions of metal spheroids in the soil samples taken from formations that weren't found in control samples and that had odd distributions around and throughout the formations.


You have a link to this research? Was is peer reviewed?

I'm hearing a lot about "crop circles that cannot be explained". Where is the proof? At least give us a reputable link to work with, preferably with some scientific basis behind it.

Otherwise one would have to revert to what is currently the most logical postition with the most amount of evidence to support it, which is that all crop circles are man made. Give me any kind of evidence to suggest otherwise and I'd be prepared to take that into account.

I won't hold my breath though...



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:30 AM
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Wow, such emotional hostility on both sides of the coin here. I tip my hat to Ocho Cinco, er Once Once (sorry, I am a football fan and had to make a joke, not making fun of you).

I was intrigued about the crop circle thing because of the now famous 'solar storm' circle. This thread is informative and has me now around 90% of the opinion that most, if not all, circles are man-made. What is nagging at me is this:

The 'solar storm' circle was only interpreted as depicting the magnetosphere reacting to a solar storm on 7/7. What I find interesting is that somebody saw the resemblance between the magnetosphere and the crop circle, so they assumed it meant a warning. Then they pulled 7/7 out of it due to the prominence of '7's in the circle and the depiction of a lunar eclipse.

So on 7/4 sunspot 1024 appears. No big deal except this sunspot is the first large sun spot of solar cycle 24 producing CMEs toward Earth and got rather large rather quickly. The particles from this sunspot hit Earth's magnetosphere on 7/7.

Keep in mind that the sun has been at a solar minimum for like 2 years now, and this is the first sunspot of this magnitude (albeit relatively small compared to ones from previous cycles) in as many years.

Is that just a crazy coincidence, or what? I am cool with it if it is, but that was such an unlikely interpretation and seemed to me to be so accurate as to not be pure chance.

I mean, I believe that M was on about the Hummingbird. I completely expect a dolphin and wave to appear within a few weeks. BUT, is somebody trying to leak information to people using these crop circles?

And not to go too far off-topic on that pyramid thing, but there is some amazing knowledge in the construction of the pyramids. Sure, they can be man-made, but the knowledge of the earth, sun, moon, solar system etc involved in the creation, location and proportions of the great pyramid seem to indicate some knowledge of our universe that we lack today. Hopefully one day we will be able to figure that out... personally, I would not be too shocked to find these things are related to a secret ancient knowledge and that man is capable of "inhuman" feats when blessed with this knowledge. That is an entirely other topic though.

So, in summary, supposing these circles are man-made - which I think they are - could there be a message in them? Maybe not the humming bird and other animals, but the ones with 'code' or astrological symbolism?

Just throwing that out there.


[edit on 8-7-2009 by nydsdan]



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 11:32 AM
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You may have questionable proof on this particular circle however I do believe there are others. Why not?



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