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Shreveport Citizens Disarmed By Police For 2nd Amendment Bumper Stickers

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posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 08:32 PM
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Shreveport Citizens Disarmed By Police For 2nd Amendment Bumper Stickers


www.blacklistednews.com

Just ask Shreveport resident Robert Baillio, who got pulled over for having two pro-gun bumper stickers on the back of his truck — and had his gun confiscated.

While the officer who pulled him over says Baillio failed to use his turn signal, the only questions he had for Baillio concerned guns: Whether he had a gun, where the gun was, and if he was a member of the NRA. No requests for a driver’s licence, proof of insurance, or vehicle registration — and no discussion of a turn signal.


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posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 08:32 PM
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The way the report reads this is an example of taking away ones rights as going way to far. The article does not say anything about getting his weapon back. Seizing property for committing a crime, or the property that was used to commit the crime is one thing, a traffic violation is something completely different. To me this is another example of a police state.

www.blacklistednews.com
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posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 08:51 PM
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Shocking, you just gotta love when this kind of crap happens. Illegal firearms are one thing but to confiscate a lawfully owned firearm... I smell a big lawsuit over that.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by hangedman13
Shocking, you just gotta love when this kind of crap happens. Illegal firearms are one thing but to confiscate a lawfully owned firearm... I smell a big lawsuit over that.


Great idea, sue the police and get enough money to buy 50 uber guns!



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 09:15 PM
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Taking a look at the Wiki article, it says that there was apparently something of a controversy back in 2008 over his vetoing of a pay raise for the police officers of Shreveport, LA.


On October 24, 2008, Mayor Glover vetoed a pay raise proposal that would have included all law enforcement personnel. [2] This was the first veto the mayor used during his term. The pay raise, backed by Shreveport City Councilman Bryan Wooley, a Republican, would have cost the city $2 million. The proposal had intended to remedy the city's number of law enforcement personnel that were leaving because of low pay and safety issues. Shreveport has a considerably higher crime rate and pays its police officers less than the regional average. Wooley argued that the proposal was one way to retain more officers, saying: "Officers are leaving at an alarming rate to find better pay somewhere else. Let's keep it in the police department. Let's give the police officers a well deserved-well needed raise and lets make ourselves competitive in the marketplace."[3] Glover responded by saying that the city only loses officers at a rate of 6 percent, which is below the national average of 10 percent. [4]


Wiki article

Personally I am not liking this guy very much.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 09:23 PM
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The KSLA article along with his own words say that his gun WAS NOT CONFISCATED. It was returned to him at the end of the stop. If an officer suspects you may be carrying a weapon during a traffic stop and you answer yes, then they take your gun from you and secure it for the duration of the stop until such time as it is deemed that the stop is concluded or no crime with the gun was or is to be perpetrated. (i.e. finding a ski mask in the vehicle with the gun).Edit to add: That is for ALL law enforcement agencies. Once you confirm you are carrying a weapon legally, you have conented to have that weapon secured during a traffic stop, if you have a license.

[edit on 7-7-2009 by djvexd]



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 09:28 PM
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I would be running my printer overtime printing derogatory (with the police chiefs name on them)bumper stickers and putting them on cars all over town.

Run a recall petition on the police chief

Then picket the police department.

And set up a bogus web site for the police department making them look bad.

Then sue the city.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 09:42 PM
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I live in Shreveport, and I hate to be "that guy" in this thread, but I think some places, or perhaps people, in the USA really shouldn't have access to guns.

It's unsafe in Shreveport because there are a butt load of rednecks that don't like black people, and even more black people that don't like the rednecks. And they allll own guns.

Back in February of this year, somebody shot their brother dead in the parking lot of a business my father owns, and now we're being sued by the family of the dead brother. Hurray for justice?


This city stinks. The only thing keeping it afloat are the casinos, and I really wish people weren't allowed to wantonly buy firearms, as a lot of them just aren't responsible with them.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 09:51 PM
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I say we all call and complain to the police chef

Non-emergency number: (318) 673-7300

Chief of Police
Henry Whitehorn Office: (318) 673-6900

And send a message we will not have our rights taken away.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 09:51 PM
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I can readily understand your angst.

However, . . . given your set of problems and those you articulate for your unfair city . . .

I'd much rather have THOSE problems

THAN

the much more horrific problem of tyrannical government with no effective counter force, no effective recourse, no effective citizen protection from the tyranny . . .

at their hands, in their own homes . . .



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 10:04 PM
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The only tyranny we have is the kind people go along with, because it's to stop terrorists, or communism, or immorality, or for the children.

In other words, it's all voluntary tyranny.

Getting rid of guns won't stop that. However, it will stop people from killing each other with such an effective and simple tool.


Look, I know plenty of people who own guns and use them responsibly -- but something has to be done about this minority of retards who get access to them, then run around shooting people. What that something is, I don't know, but guns are clearly being misused every day, and people die because of that.

Maybe the solution is mandatory safety training? Maybe it's mandatory licensing? Maybe it's a big fat tax on guns, so people can't go buy 3 of them on a months salary?

I don't know. I would just like to see some preventative measures taken to stop people from shooting each other. Also, if somebody gets shot on your property, the law should be on the side of the property owner, not the victim who got shot.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 10:24 PM
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I have two observations in the way of questions:

1 - At some point wouldn't they need to actually dispose of these weapons? I mean, what then, Police auction (
)? Or could it be that the best armed people in this country is slowly becoming the civil police force?

2 - Isn't it neat that we must submit to this kind of thing or be instantly assimilated by the justice system? Is that not incongruous with our Republic's stated position on freedom to bear arms? Or maybe I am being Constitutionally anal?

[edit on 7-7-2009 by Maxmars]



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 10:44 PM
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Max,
I work in scrap metal and once a month the state police and local police get all their confiscated weapons and bring them to be sliced in pieces and sold as scrap. I have refused on three different occasions to run the shear they use. The State Cops asked me why and I told him flat out. Most of these guns belong to legitimate owners who have had them stolen and not returned. He told me that was what insurance was for. I've seen magnificent engraved rifles and pistols that were definitely family heirlooms cut into little pieces with no regard for their actual worth. The ignorance of our public officials is criminal in their stupidity!

Zindo



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 11:07 PM
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Why, in a free society,would an officer want to stop a law abiding, gun owning, sticker-displaying driver? Are the decals illegal? Where is the citizen breaking law requiring intervention? I was stopped on a similair chance about 4 years ago on I-70 in Wheeling WVA. When pulled over, I was told I was drunk. After the field-test DUI scheme that nobody can pass showed that I was sober, I was told by 2 patrolmen and the sergeant ( yeah, it took 3 of them and 2 cars to do this to a peaceful person ), that I was pulled over for the NRA and Glock Safety decals on my car. I let the gendarmes search the car as I had nothing (and pissed them off as they wrecked the interior of the car), then actually had to lecture them as to the pertinent constitutional rights they had potentially violated. Their response was "Well, theys lotsa militias around here!" I again showed that I had no reason to be part of their local militias (evidently gun-owners), they calmed down. As none of them could formulate a logical response, the "Sarge " decided that I could go home. He said "We're not gonna stand here and argue this all nite". I agreed and stated "No, I will not". He was beaten at his own game and said "Have a good evening". I replied the same. Dont let these uneducated nazi-wannabees intimidate you !.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 11:14 PM
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You sir, understand what's happening. Heirlooms, antiques, and family history is being destroyed by what, facism? Naziism? Where does this stop?.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 11:23 PM
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I live about 2 hrs from Shreveport. I go there all the time to shop and go out and such. I thik I will put a couple pro gun bumperstickers on my vehicle and see what happens. I think I will rig up a camera pointing at my driver's side window to record everything.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 11:40 PM
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This was an attempt to mess with the guy reagrding his veto over the police. Police revenge, lets call it. The cop probably noticed his NRA sticker, with is perfectly legal to have on yuor acr, ive known many people near me who had them on thier cars years ago. The cop prob did some qucik thinknig,a ndd found a way to disarm this guy/hurt him somehow, without using his nightstick or tazer.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 12:00 AM
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My thoughts about that traffic stop are "holy profiling batman"
Where was the probable cause for the search? How pc of the cop. djvexed I must ask if the weapon in question is not central to the stop why hand it over? I was told by a police officer I am not obligated to do so, any way you have to consider you might be arrested anyway just for having the gun legalities be damned. Hey you could have made some cops career. And Kaytagg are we talking legally owned guns? Not to sound racist [even though it still sounds it] how many of the blacks legally own their guns? In NY it's like a badge of honor for them. As for the rednecks, the rifle and shot gun probably, pistols I doubt it. Anyone who legally owns a gun goes through quite a hurdle in NY. Is it like going to buy smokes there? [oh wait that was a bad example] I would love to know on what grounds your father was being sued on.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 12:08 AM
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The police will take your guns when they can, its that simple.
They win , and you lose. By the time court comes and you have dropped ten grand on a lawyer just to stay out of jail, you will realize a brick is actually a pretty good option to carry for self defense.

It costs about a dollar



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 12:12 AM
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You think taking your guns away is going to solve anything? Take a look at my country (England), guns are illegal over here but we probably have just as many shootings. I envy your guns. Its the only thing that keeps you safe from internal threats.



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