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Originally posted by octotom
We don't literally eat and drink Jesus' flesh and blood. It's a symbol..
"‘I am the living bread which came down from heaven; if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh.’ The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, ‘How can this man give us his flesh to eat?’" (John 6:51–52).
"Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him" (John 6:53–56).
Even a modestly informed Catholic can set an inquirer right and direct him to biblical accounts of Jesus’ final night with his disciples. Turning to the text, we read, "And he took bread, and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to them, saying, ‘This is my body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me’" (Luke 22:19).
The Greek here and in the parallel Gospel passages (Matt. 26:26; Mark 14:22) reads: Touto estin to soma mou. Paul’s version differs slightly: Touto mou estin to soma (1 Cor. 11:24). They all translate as "This is my body." The verb estin is the equivalent of the English "is" and can mean "is really" or "is figuratively." The usual meaning of estin is the former (check any Greek grammar book), just as, in English, the verb "is" usually is taken literally.
Fundamentalists insist that when Christ says, "This is my body," he is speaking figuratively. But this interpretation is precluded by Paul’s discussion of the Eucharist in 1 Corinthians 11:23–29 and by the whole tenor of John 6, the chapter where the Eucharist is promised. The Greek word for "body" in John 6:54 is sarx, which means physical flesh, and the word for "eats" (trogon) translates as "gnawing" or "chewing." This is certainly not the language of metaphor.
Originally posted by silent thunder
common reaction among many to sushi was to turn up one's nose at the context of "raw fish."
Originally posted by dizziedame
There are some societies that do drink cows blood. My father showed me once when I was a young girl how they used a reed to penetrate the vein of the animal and get the blood. He drank it and had no ill effects.
Originally posted by rapunzel222
reply to post by helen670
i was talking to the originating poster. i had noticed myself that the symbolism of xtn mass with blood and body of christ and eating it resembles on a symbolic level, the actual cannibalistic sacrificial religions and pagan religions where they really did eat the blood and body of someone.
i never said that xtn baptism was not done with water. i know its done with water. i think everyone knows that. childress noted that the phonecian ritual of child sacrifice used a bowl to catch the blood, that i think he said resembled a baptismal bowl or something. you can read exactly what he said in his book if you can find the page. it just struck me as interesting in light of this discussion. i am not saying the two are necessarly connected, i just found it interesting.
ritual of child sacrifice used a bowl to catch the blood, that i think he said resembled a baptismal bowl or something
BLOOD RITUAL, gives us an exegesis of the Purim-fest Book of Esther...
Picture Postcard widely circulated in Poland showing ritual
murder of Agnes Hruza, age 19.
Jew named Hilsner was found guilty of this crime.
(Date 1899, Story in Chapter 10).
"Soul had they none, nor lineage;
"Nor wit, nor headmen,
"Nor crafts, nor letters,
"Nor e'en a glimpse of God."
- British Edda.
which certain beliefs would those be? What groups continue to practice ritual murder today? Please tell us more.
Originally posted by helen670
The practise of Ritual MURDERS in practse of certain beleifs still go on!
It makes me sick to even think about it!