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Burn and sacrfice goats, Eat Flesh and Drink blood, where have i heard that before?

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posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 05:47 PM
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So, umm, apparently, to get into the 33rd degree freemasonry, you have to symbolically sacrifice a goat and drink it's blood. And in further rituals, you symbolically eat flesh, note that the freemasons only do this to animals, not to humans or believed immortal entities, who hasnt eaten animals, and who hasnt consumed a steak dripping with blood.
Now, let's read part of the holy bible:
Leviticus, 1:9
He is to wash the inner parts and legs with water, and the priest is to burn all of it on the altar. It is a burnt offering, an aroma pleasing to the lord.
So, err, yeah, basically the same thing, except not symbolically, read it, they are referring to an animal here.
Now, let's see something in christianity:
"This is my body…this is my blood", referring to the mortal incarnation of jesus, a human, ritually in churches, you drink wine and eat bread, at the last supper, jesus says that the bread is his flesh, and the wine is his blood, tis is what you are doing in a church, ritually performing cannibalism, while in lodges, ritually performing sacrifice.
Any catholic anti masons here? well how come you arent out burning goats.




posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 06:20 PM
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who hasnt consumed a steak dripping with blood.

Me. That's nasty.


Now, let's read part of the holy bible:
Leviticus, 1:9
He is to wash the inner parts and legs with water, and the priest is to burn all of it on the altar. It is a burnt offering, an aroma pleasing to the lord.
So, err, yeah, basically the same thing, except not symbolically, read it, they are referring to an animal here.

What are you getting at? No one eats the animal. It's completely burned up.


Now, let's see something in christianity:
"This is my body…this is my blood", referring to the mortal incarnation of jesus, a human, ritually in churches, you drink wine and eat bread, at the last supper, jesus says that the bread is his flesh, and the wine is his blood, tis is what you are doing in a church, ritually performing cannibalism, while in lodges, ritually performing sacrifice.

We don't literally eat and drink Jesus' flesh and blood. It's a symbol.

Any catholic anti masons here? well how come you arent out burning goats.

Don't you think that this sounds a bit confrontational? Understand that Christians don't sacrifice anything because Christ was the final sacrifice.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by octotom
reply to post by unclekrabz

Now, let's see something in christianity:
"This is my body…this is my blood", referring to the mortal incarnation of jesus, a human, ritually in churches, you drink wine and eat bread, at the last supper, jesus says that the bread is his flesh, and the wine is his blood, tis is what you are doing in a church, ritually performing cannibalism, while in lodges, ritually performing sacrifice.

We don't literally eat and drink Jesus' flesh and blood. It's a symbol.


A symbol of what?

Cannibalism?

[edit on 7-7-2009 by breakingdradles]



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 07:10 PM
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A symbol of what?

Christ's sacrifice for us. Just as Christ said, "this is my body broken for you" and "this is the blood of the new covenant". Since the 11 took part in the Lord's Supper while Jesus was alive, it couldn't have been cannibalism.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by octotom
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A symbol of what?

Christ's sacrifice for us. Just as Christ said, "this is my body broken for you" and "this is the blood of the new covenant". Since the 11 took part in the Lord's Supper while Jesus was alive, it couldn't have been cannibalism.


So you eat him?

What does that accomplish that praising or praying won't?

I just don't understand why you'd tell kids drink Jesus's blood and eat his flesh.

Doesn't make sense?



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 08:35 PM
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You people are sqeamish.

Raw Meat is DELICIOUS...high-quality steak-tartar, Japanese tataki, Korean Yukke...this is the best possible food, provided its prepared well of quality, untainted meat.

The rush of energy is amazing and the taste is excellent.

Fifteen years ago the common reaction among many to sushi was to turn up one's nose at the context of "raw fish."Today, sushi joints are paked with customers coast-to-coast. It is my hope that someday the irrational strictures against safe, quality raw meat wil be dropped.



[edit on 7/7/09 by silent thunder]



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by unclekrabz
So, umm, apparently, to get into the 33rd degree freemasonry, you have to symbolically sacrifice a goat and drink it's blood.
Um, according to who, exactly? How many 33° Masons do YOU know? I personally hang out with about 20 of them, sometimes as often as once a week.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by breakingdradles
A symbol of what?

Cannibalism?


No, of the Passover Lamb.

Jesus' death was the New Testament fulfillment of the prophetic Passover Lamb foreshadowing from the Old Testament.

When Jesus said what you are now asking about, they were also celebrating Passover. That is what the Last Supper, where this all took place, was about.

Then it is also explained further in the NT:


For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed.


1 Corinthians 5:7

Nothing to do with Cannibalism. lol He was showing how He was the one who would be the Savior and would atone for sins.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 10:31 PM
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Sushi.

Sushi is delish, but the Moonies control virtually all the sushi trade in America, and they're a far more insidious and dangerous cult than the 20th century's desiccated, largely harmless incarnation of Masonry.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 10:54 PM
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JESUS died as a LAST sacrifice...To put a END to such practices.
He died and was resurrected for the salvation of souls. He paid the ransom for human souls.. The church practices are suppose to replace those gruesome pagan practices and rituals..

Jeremiah 19:4-5

"Because they have forsaken me, and have estranged this place, and have burned incense in it unto other gods, whom neither they or their fathers have known, nor the kings of Judah, and have filled this place with the blood of innocents; They have built also the high places of Ba'al, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Ba'al, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it unto my mind."

[edit on 8-7-2009 by Wideawake08]



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 01:43 AM
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I dont know anything about masons or 33rd degree masons but i do know a little about the Eucharist. I was Episcopal at one time and did on many occasions recieve communion or the Eucharist.
It was never my idea that i was eating or drinking the blood and body of christ but rather a memorial of the death of jesus. A remeberance of his sacrifice. However that being said it is true that the Eucharist is a holy sacrament and that the ritual of The eucharist is mean tto invoke the Holy Spirit and thereby transforming the wafer and wine into the living blood and body of Jesus. This according to the catholic church and also observed by the episcopals.
So to the person who said its just a symbol not really the blood and body of christ that may be true for you in your denomination. Yes it is true that anglicans and protestants do not observe the same meaning of the last supper and also refer to it as such and not The Eucharist. Heck no one group or denomination even practices it the same. Some use grape juice some use wine, some do it every sunday some only certain times of the year. It is very much open to ones interpretation of the meaning of the gospels, so as much as i do NOT want to admit this, this person here who wants to interpet this as cannibalism has that right.
It does seem very offensive to christians because of the word used, but the truth of it is that in the Roman catholic church they truly do believe that the wafer and wine are transformed into his REAL flesh and blood and they drink it. By definition thats what it is.
Now to the person who started this thread, your simply trying to make a point of god knows what and riling people up in the process. LOL good job if that was your intent cause people of faith (any faith) who love and worship their god are easy targets for provocation. Take anyone with a steadfast belief in something and poke at it and your going to get reaction.
Personally i think before you made your comment and in the manner you did it would help for you to really get to know the subject your making comments on. Although it is your god given right to shoot your mouth off in any direction you want no matter how absurb you sound.

Sorry if that offends its just MY interpretation of things



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 02:00 AM
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Hi Wideawake/

well said!

Jesus even cursed THOSE that continued to do such VILE SADISTIC things!
Did you know that the practise of Ritual Murder still goes on?
If only people knew the sickening of this Devil Worshiping Practice, then they will understand Christ's WORD as the TRUTH!

And I'm not pointing this to just anyone GROUP...they know who they are!

ICXC NIKA
helen



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 02:39 AM
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Oh,And I'm not speaking about ANIMAL sacrifice!

ICXC NIKA
helen



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 06:48 AM
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why couldn't the Moonies do all the charity work and let us masons take care of the sushi? I love it. I would make a super sampler but a lousy distributor.
Geez, I sure hope I fit into the largely harmless portion.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 07:11 AM
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Most all Christian religions have communion with the bread and wine.

I've received communion in many countries and the offerings vary.

Some use unleavened bread and real wine. Others use a common loaf and each person breaks a piece of the bread off and dips it in a chalice of grape juice.

For me, it reaffirms my faith that Jesus died for my sins and that He is there to forgive me when I sin.

There are some societies that do drink cows blood. My father showed me once when I was a young girl how they used a reed to penetrate the vein of the animal and get the blood. He drank it and had no ill effects.

Edit to add that my Dad taught me to be tolerant of others beliefs. He was a world traveler and shared with me me many strange customs.

[edit on 8-7-2009 by dizziedame]

[edit on 8-7-2009 by dizziedame]



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 06:13 PM
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What im saying is, IT IS ALL RITUAL, AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WIHT SATANISM. I NEVER SAID THAT CHRISTIANS ARE A SATANIC ORDER, im saying that the practices of freemason ritual resemble that of christendom and judaism, and have no relation to that of satanism.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 06:14 PM
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Yes, youre rituals are much like my fathers and his fathers rituals, only symbolic and faith reassuring. And if im not wrong, my daddys daddy was a christian also.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 06:17 PM
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Well then why do you ritually and symbolically drink wine and bread to represent the flesh and blood of jesus, it is self and faith reassuring, and is a great show of tradition and heritage. The freemasons do the same thing.
And with that lev thing, i think you should see the multiple places where god says "my laws are eternal"



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 06:20 PM
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i sorry if it seems offensive to use the word "symbolic cannibalism", but that term should apply to the mortal lord jesus not the eternal one, then again it is only symbolic, so no problem, it doesnt represent cult or satanism.



posted on Jul, 8 2009 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by AshleyD

Originally posted by breakingdradles
A symbol of what?

Cannibalism?


No, of the Passover Lamb.

Jesus' death was the New Testament fulfillment of the prophetic Passover Lamb foreshadowing from the Old Testament.

When Jesus said what you are now asking about, they were also celebrating Passover. That is what the Last Supper, where this all took place, was about.

Then it is also explained further in the NT:


For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed.


1 Corinthians 5:7

Nothing to do with Cannibalism. lol He was showing how He was the one who would be the Savior and would atone for sins.


So a human sacrifice was needed to atone for sins?
Isn't that more than a little disturbing?



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