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Largest Sun Spot EVER found Today 7/7/09 - 60 to 80 times size of Earth!

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posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by grapesofraft
reply to post by Trunkeight
 


Well dont you think the most rational explanation is that it is a team of human beings doing this and that is why there is a pattern that human beings can interpret?


Once again, I dont CARE who makes them, I care only for the INFORMATION they seem to contain, and the timing of them. A herd of Giraffes could have made them for all i know, I dont CARE. I will give it that an intelligence is indeed responsible for them, but it's the depiction itself, or at least the co-efficient of the image and the time it appeared that is anomalous to standard human behaviour.

Grapesofraft, its the solar events occuring that interest me, and I think it is wise to pay attention to them, as current events form future trends.




posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 05:56 PM
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All the credible sites say this is wrong. I did however add the source site to my list of bad sources.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 05:56 PM
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Oh I will tell you about Aliens. There are no aliens visiting earth so how could they be making crop circles?



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by SonicInfinity
If I didn't know any better, questioningall just likes her topics on the front page. Why else would she make three topics instead of keeping them to one? You don't see the administrators making a new topic every time there's a new forum rule, they just edit their original post or post again in the thread.


Oh wow, a big sunspot appeared today, and questioningall thinks it's the biggest sunspot ever made in humankind's history and that it confirms the interpreted prediction made in the crop circles, one of which taking an entire three days to make. Uh huh.

You'll see me back in here if temperatures sudden jump 20 degrees and there are electrical failures all across America and the world in the next week or two; otherwise, I'm done.

[edit on 7/7/2009 by SonicInfinity]



Such subtle slander...



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 05:58 PM
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edited entire thread to direct a question to more members than just one:

To those who are so upset with people who think crop circles might have more meaning than just pretty design and could have been done by someone who knows something we don't"

Why do you even care that we think this?
Are we trying to force these beliefs on you?
How does it effect you?
Why do you feel the need to convince us all that were wacko's?

How many of you believe in God? As in the Christian god? And the story of a talking snake convincing a naked woman to eat from a forbidden tree then an angel came down and banished her and her naked husband from the land?

Sounds pretty implausible to me. But I bet you believe it with absolutely no evidence other than a book that is also based on no evidence to back it up.

People believe what they believe and as long as no one is trying to push you to believe it then quit wasting your time and energy on it. Quit coming into threads that you supposedly KNOW is full of BS and then bringing everybody down.



[edit on 7-7-2009 by nunya13]



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 05:59 PM
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Well you can pay attention to solar activity all you want, it is about as productive as watching the USGS earthquake list. Stuff happens. It is going to keep happening and it is normal over the course of Earths history. So why waste your time, that is what we pay experts to do.

We dont even know if the crop circle is about solar activity that is just someones guess.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 06:01 PM
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Well that is your opinion then and you are free to bathe in it.


However, that isnt proving anything nor does it add to this discussion.


-O



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 06:01 PM
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Good point - However this area is quite heavily policed and Salisbury Plain is one of the largest army exercise areas in the Uk
If too many people congregate in this area they close it off....
Search Battle of theBeanfield on google
Maybe it is because of the Druids that this is where this is happening
Definate food for thought....



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by Overbyte77
reply to post by grapesofraft
 


Life is interpretation. Science as we know it is interpretation of the whole, which itself does not have all the answers - far from it. Art is also a concept that has no boundaries - who is to say when something is subjective or objective when everything we base our lives on is a result of the subjective human spirit and perceptual model? Conceptually, we really haven't moved beyond Ptolemy's model it seems.


Science is interpretation, but it goes beyond that to say it doesnt count if you cannot reproduce it or produce evidence, and even if you can you might still be wrong. Science never claimed to have ALL of the answers, it is just the best way to progress in knowledge and not attribute everything to mythical creatures like our ancestors did when they lived in a cave.

You may base your life on the human spirit and the perceptual model, and that would explain a lot about how you view the world and accept any info as fact as long as it has no proof whatsoever behind it.

[edit on 7-7-2009 by grapesofraft]



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by Overbyte77
reply to post by grapesofraft
 


Well that is your opinion then and you are free to bathe in it.


However, that isnt proving anything nor does it add to this discussion.


-O


Sure it adds to the discussion, because if you cant even prove there are aliens visiting earth then how can you make a case that they create crop circles?



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by druid1
...Maybe it is because of the Druids that this is where this is happening
Definate food for thought....

It's precisely because of its druid history that human crop circle makers like to make them in the English countryside near ancient sites.

It makes the circle seem "more mysterious" to others, and thus the human crop circle makers get a bigger kick out of making them.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by nunya13
A sunspot has a direct correlation to a solar flare.


Ummm, isn't that exactly what I said in the post that you replied to?

See:

Originally posted by 0nce 0nce
"Sun spots create solar flares", that's true.


Why are you telling me something I already know, and already said?



Originally posted by nunya13
A sunspot can eventually erupt into a solar flare so there IS significance here.


What exactly is significant? A sunspot that existed before 7/7/09 that is dying down?

I think questioningall's mass spamming of "omg biggest ever new sunspot!" has actually fooled a lot of people. It's not new, and isn't the biggest ever either.

The only significant thing I see, is that a whole group of people got fooled by a select few people, and false prophets.


Originally posted by nunya13
What is your beef?


Where is yours?

Did I say something wrong to you? If not, why are you getting involved? Again, where is your beef?



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 06:09 PM
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Nobody has yet to prove the title of this thread, which i remind you all is not about a crop circle. Until it is changed we should be discussing the sunspot, which we have and the title has been proven false therefore this is a HOAX thread. If you want to talk about CC and Solar flares discuss it in one of the other threads unless the thread title is changed.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 06:09 PM
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How long are you guys going to argue this out? One side believes that sunspot 1024 is significant and the other doesn't. From what I can see, not one side is going to win this fight and you're just coming up against a brick wall every time you try to. If there is something to this, then time will tell, otherwise accept defeat and give up on slating eachother, it's getting ridiculous.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Point of No Return
reply to post by questioningall
 


They are just afraid of the things you write about, and afraid of thinking outside the box.

So they project the stigma "fear mongerer" onto you.


Read her many other threads and you will see that the title was aptly earned.

Sad that when actual facts are presented, many here choose to ignore them, including and especially the OP.



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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I've explained myself enough regarding my opinion on the recent event. Go back and read my posts because you misinterpret my intent.

-O



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by grapesofraft
reply to post by Trunkeight
 


Well you can pay attention to solar activity all you want, it is about as productive as watching the USGS earthquake list. Stuff happens. It is going to keep happening and it is normal over the course of Earths history. So why waste your time, that is what we pay experts to do.

We dont even know if the crop circle is about solar activity that is just someones guess.


I never said it directly WAS. Please watch the misrepresentation once again.

How is being aware of the state and condition of the panet and solar system in general a waste of time? PLease do NOT tell me what I should or should not do. Experts are indeed paid to pay attention to solar activity, I however, am not. This is a supposed 'conspiracy' site, and you suggest take 'Expert' advice while ceasing personal inquiry? How odd...



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 06:15 PM
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No different than you being unable to disprove ETs are visiting us, either.

Both are faith-based statements with little tangible proof either way. It's why Im interested in discussion rather than fighting over a 'hard yes' or a 'hard no'.

There is a middle ground to both positions. And that is where I am. So don't pigeon hole me.

-O



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by Trunkeight...its the solar events occuring that interest me, and I think it is wise to pay attention to them, as current events form future trends.

If you are paying attention to the solar events, which ones exactly seem odd or noteworthy?

I know we are in a solar minimum, but that doesn't mean that solar activity stops -- it just slows down a bit. Solar minimum are very normal -- they happen like clockwork in 11-year cycles for the past 200 years that we have been studying the Sun, and most likely for millions of years before that -- and solar activity during solar minimum are very normal.

In fact, the end of most solar minimum cycles isn't even known until 6 months or more after it actually happens, because the increased solar activity needs to occur for 12 months before the solar minimum can be officially declared "over" -- i.e. some activity, even a couple months of activity, is perfectly normal during the solar minimum.

...so I ask again, what is about the solar activity that is making you take notice?

[edit on 7/7/2009 by Soylent Green Is People]



posted on Jul, 7 2009 @ 06:17 PM
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Didn't Einstein write a lot about beauty and elegance in reference to his theories and then set about proving his models? Many of the greatest creative minds combined both right and left brain input to bring amazing new knowledge to light. We need both. Leonardo, Newton, Galileo etc. Mechanistic worldview versus relative vs quantum.

To me this crop circle and solar event is close enough for hand grenades and horseshoes to make it interesting at the very least. You all are speculating both pro and con. The circles are beautiful as well.

I will pay more attention to them in the future due to this event.

Phage I've noticed you haven't made any conclusive statements. I mean the particles did arrive today as you mentioned. What are the odds?



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