Yep sign me up. I carry a bible, a copy of the constitution and a glock on occasion. I have no qualms using the first two at the drop of a hat. The other takes a little more thinking before it is used. However that time might be approaching. I'll shut up now before I say something else.

respectfully

reluctantpawn

Great, it just gets worse doesn't it? We can tell with all these bills going in that TPTB are trying to goad the people into a revolution so they can claim innocence and say they never did anything.

However it seems to be getting to the point where we have to do SOMETHING, I just can't think of what would work aside from anything that would guarantee martial law being declared, just like they want.

Digg the thread and flag it.

I'm of the mind this story needs to be spread far and wide.

People need to be informed of what our government is up to.

Our government is acting in a rogue fashion, completely outside the bounds of its constitutional authority.

Too bad us conspiracy nuts are crazy and make up stuff. Right?

They're in "your face" now with all of this, and still some people REFUSE to believe it.

Its all out in the open. No more hiding little things, yet so many are sleeping right thru it all.

Its incomprehensible.

I wonder if the entire state of New Hampshire is on the "extremist" list? "Live Free or Die" is on everything.

I'm getting really tired of this s*. These sell outs in Washington are digging their own graves. The French revolution was not pretty and did not bode well for the Governing elite when retaliation took place. They are going to be pushing to far very soon.

[edit on 7-7-2009 by Anonymous Avatar]

Well, then we must create peace groups, with peacefull intentions who dont go against their goverments, but instead go against their ideology.
Thats not listed is it??

Peace!

Originally posted by Anonymous Avatar
I'm getting really tired of this s*. These sell outs in Washington are digging their own graves. The French revolution was not pretty and did not bode well for the Governing elite when retaliation took place. They are going to be pushing to far very soon.

[edit on 7-7-2009 by Anonymous Avatar]

That is the plan my friend. They are doing it on purpose. It all really depends on how many of the sell outs escape if what you say will happen does indeed come to pass.

I suspect many of the traitors will abandon our shores for the shores of the countries that are helping destroy this nation.

You know, for the longest time I thought that this whole concept was ridiculous...but it makes sense now. My only problem is that I still do not believe that people are inherently evil...but all this NWO stuff makes me think otherwise.

I do not want to see a revolution, because it is going to be a long and drawn out battle...however, I do not see how this can be avoided if things do not change.

We need to get this country back to its basics. Get rid of the fed and take back our freedoms!

I would recommend OP revise his post to correctly reflect the nature of the amendment.

Here is the amendment in question, which I believe receives no further explanation.

This particular amendment states:

#82


"Would prohibit the recruitment, enlistment, or retention of individuals associated or affiliated with groups associated with hate-related violence against groups or persons or the United States government."

Hm....waiting for more sources than just INFOWARS

But I agree, it's not looking too good. However, I won't hold my breath as this website isn't the most credible.

Also, when I see protestors or gun owners and such being arrested..then I'll start to believe it.

[edit on 7-7-2009 by GorehoundLarry]

Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
Hm....waiting for more sources than just INFOWARS

But I agree, it's not looking too good. However, I won't hold my breath as this website isn't the most credible.

Also, when I see protestors or gun owners and such being arrested..then I'll start to believe it.

[edit on 7-7-2009 by GorehoundLarry]

amended OP post with links to thomas and the gop review.

edit,

edited amendment link to actual PDF of entire amendment hosted on the House's website.




[edit on 7-7-2009 by mnemeth1]

Well I think the term "hate group" really needs to be defined as in what constitutes labeling a group as a hate group.

On the surface it just sounds as if it is targeting groups that actually kill individuals based on a hate.

That being said with the inclusion of tattoos it almost sounds like it could also be used to target intercity gangs which I find interesting.

I'm all for a republic I just don't see this particular piece is all that threatening depending on what is defined as a hate group. However there is plenty of other things that are well overstepping the boundaries of the original constitution.

"Prohibition on recruitment, enlistment, or retention of persons associated with hate-related violence against groups or persons or the united states government."

"Groups or organizations that esponse or engage in acts of violence against other groups or minorities based on ideals of hate, ethnic supremacies, white supremacies, racism, anti-Semitism, xenophobia, or other bigotry ideologies."

"Groups or organizations engaged in criminal gang activity including rug and weapons trafficking and smuggling."

So far, I agree with all of this. I don't know about you, but these things are wrong

Now this one can be misunderstood:

"Groups of organizations that esponse an intention of expectation of armed revolutionary activity against the United States government, or the violent overthrow of the United States government."

Basically, that means don't go out and say "Let's hang Obama." K? K. Death threats to the president isn't smart.

"Groups or organizations that encourage members to join the armed forces in order to obtain military training to be used for acts of VIOLENCE against minorities, other groups, or the United States Government."

Kinda like karate.

Now this part I disagree with:

"EVIDENCE OF ASSOCIATION OR AFFILIATION WITH HATE GROUP----The following shall constitute evidence that a person is associated or affiliated with a group associated with hate-related violence:"

ready?

"Individuals possessing tattoos or other body markings indicating association or affiliation with a hate group."

What's their definition of hate?

"Individuals known to have attend meetings, rallies, conferences, or other activities sponsored by a hate group."

Alright , you get the point.

So basically, they're actually trying to...clean up the military? What? Not allowing racists into the military anymore? HOW DARE THEY