140 Dead in Muslim Riots - Western China, page 2
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reply posted on 6-7-2009 @ 09:36 AM by Redpillblues
reply to post by mrmonsoon



You got it..This BS is going to come down to a world wide show down I bet you..There forcing their hand..China is dealing with it just fine I say..

See what happens when you give someone an inch,and they see an oppertunity to abuse what they got..


reply posted on 6-7-2009 @ 09:39 AM by mrmonsoon
reply to post by blueorder



I am glad you show the intelligence to actually read what I posted, being I asked the questions of why.

If what you say is true, then we add not rioting, but attempted revolution.

I wonder what Iran would do if part of it tried to leave?

I wonder what Russia would do if part of it tried to leave?

I wonder what Saudi Arabia, Syria....would do ion the exact same situation.

So this is separatists trying to steal chinese land and resources.

At least we "NOW" know what the deal is and can comment on what is really happening and not on misguided tales from the talking heads of local news.

Redpill, I am sadly forced to agree with you.

[edit on 7/6/2009 by mrmonsoon]


reply posted on 6-7-2009 @ 10:05 AM by ElectricUniverse
Originally posted by mrmonsoon

So China dares settle people where it wants within it's own borders...how dare they.



Originally posted by mrmonsoon
OMFG, China also dared to teach "Chinese" in Chinese schools, the horror......


Chinese doesn't exist. It is called Mandarin. There are over 800 dialects in different regions in China. When the government imposes Mandarin, it is basically destroying the dialect of the people in that region. Although they shouldn't be rioting and killing other Chinese people of different ethnic background.

As always, the Chinese government is claiming the riot was incited by a Chinese busiensswoman working in the U.S.....

They claim that she made phone calls and posted in websites inciting violence.. The only thing is, most Chinese are BANNED from certain websites such as this one. Unless they live outside of China, or unless they are actually Communist Chinese propaganda/disinformation agents.


Originally posted by mrmonsoon
That justifies mass rioting ????


Nothing except self defense, or the defense of your family, or some innocent person calls for any form of violence IMO.

Originally posted by mrmonsoon
Is this more evidence of the "religion of peace and love"?????????


I would almost agree with you on that, except for the fact that unfortunately the same thing will happen in Europe when the economic crisis gets worse there. The same will happen in Australia, the U.S., and pretty much everywhere.

When there are really bad economic crisis at least some people tend to start to blame minorities, and this intensifies with more people becoming part of a mob. Most people are just like that. Very few will actually think logically, and with some compassion.


reply posted on 6-7-2009 @ 10:27 AM by dizzylizzy
reply to post by blueorder



I agree China is authoritarian, but would an Islamic state be any better, politics and religion not mix.

The West will say nothing, China has appalling human rghts issues, our governments turn a blind eye.

From Amnesty

The Uighur Muslim population in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region (XUAR) in northwest China faced intensified persecution. The authorities used a series of violent incidents, allegedly linked to terrorists, to launch a sweeping crackdown. According to official media, almost 1,300 people were arrested during the year on terrorism, religious extremism or other state security charges, and 1,154 were formally charged and faced trials or administrative punishments. On 14 August, Wang Lequan, Party Secretary of the XUAR, announced a “life and death” struggle against Uighur “separatism”.


Article
www.amnestyusa.org...

This was in the lead up to the OLympic Games. We have to remember China persecutes people with religious belief, and maybe they were instrumental in this trouble by sending non-Muslims to the area.

Governments manipulate religious hatred for their own benefit, and encourage extremists for their own agenda, divide and conquer.
The majority of Muslims are no different than the rest of us in wanting to live a peacefull life in co-existence.


reply posted on 6-7-2009 @ 02:18 PM by hangedman13
reply to post by Iblis



Yes all religions have there extreme side but in Islam you have competing extremists. Every division in the faith stems from a different take on the prophets words. It makes the differences between sects of christianity look like coke vs pepsi. Not surprising we have rioting muslims in china. Anyone know which branch of islam they follow?


reply posted on 6-7-2009 @ 05:54 PM by SLAYER69
Old colonial sores that modern China must heal
The fear now is that racial violence is intensifying. The biggest difference between the riots in Tibet and Xinjiang is the death toll. According to government figures 156 died in Urumqi, more than seven times as many as in Lhasa. These figures, like the causes of the riots, are disputed, but clearly a long simmering problem has reached boiling point. "There is no justification for ethnically targeted violence, but this calls into question how effective the central government's policies have been towards minorities," said Nicholas Bequelin of Human Rights Watch. "These riots will have a long-lasting impact on already bad ethnic relations in Xinjiang."

China needs to rethink its approach to the ethnic issue. As with all nations that pioneered "new frontiers", the adjustment is likely to be painful.



reply posted on 6-7-2009 @ 05:57 PM by Terrapop
reply to post by marg6043



I can tell you when this is going to happen all over the world:

When Israel strikes Iran.



reply posted on 6-7-2009 @ 06:07 PM by SLAYER69
I say we haven't seen the last of it...

Unrest spreads in western China
Unrest in China's volatile western region of Xinjiang spread to a second city on Monday, with police breaking up fresh protests in Kashgar.

Chinese state media reported that police dispersed more than 200 "rioters" at the city's main mosque.

At least 156 people died and more than 800 were hurt on Sunday when protests in the city of Urumqi turned violent.

Beijing says ethnic Muslim Uighurs went on the rampage, but one exiled Uighur leader says police fired on students.



reply posted on 6-7-2009 @ 07:46 PM by Lug
reply to post by sos37



I wonder how long it will be until we start hearing about Taliban insurgents busy in China? Not long, I'd bet.

This bears watching, especially as the pressure builds up in Afghanistan and Pakistan.


reply posted on 6-7-2009 @ 08:01 PM by _Phoenix_
reply to post by warrenb



Goota feel for those innocent getting hurt in the middle of al this....

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