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Originally posted by Mr. Toodles
reply to post by ladyinwaiting
This is actually a VERY complex psychological issue that the bible can't even touch on.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by EnlightenUp
It absolutely makes sense, and is a good contribution.
You can "excuse" without forgiving.
You can forgive, without excusing.
Yes?
Forgiveness is (not always) Divine
Originally posted by redoubt
reply to post by ladyinwaiting
forgiveness offers no self-gratifying, co-pain-inflicting experience.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
Originally posted by redoubt
reply to post by ladyinwaiting
forgiveness offers no self-gratifying, co-pain-inflicting experience.
Are you sure about that?
....and last but by no means least: ROLL TIDE!
Originally posted by EnlightenUp
reply to post by ladyinwaiting
Interesting story. Kudos to her for acting to the best of her ability to keep others out harm's way.
But one thing: please ask me to clarify and/or express your objections! You mustn't place yourself at fault if something I said doesn't quite make sense. By my butting-in, stating whatever it is I stated, the burden is on me. I could be incorrect, forming a seemingly unconnected series of dots which should be properly explicated, or even expressing something I'm not quite sure of but the preponderance of evidence (explicit or through an acquired feel) I have accumulated favors it. I may still hold my position for the sake of argument, until you convince me it is untenable (which may appear as stubbornness but really I would be systematically exhausting the viability of an hypothesis).
Now that I went and typed all that, I now realize you did ask for clarification in your previous reply.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by redoubt
What must it be like to have the wisdom to judge someone's characteristics including their being prone to sterotype people based on two words! Whoo! I'm not young enough to be able to do that. lol.
Actually, I'll admit I'm the Bama fan. Didn't mean to offend your higher football senses.
But back to the topic:
Are you sure there is nothing self-serving or self-gratifying about forgiveness? I'd really like your thoughts on that.
Originally posted by redoubt
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by redoubt
What must it be like to have the wisdom to judge someone's characteristics including their being prone to sterotype people based on two words! Whoo! I'm not young enough to be able to do that. lol.
Actually, I'll admit I'm the Bama fan. Didn't mean to offend your higher football senses.
But back to the topic:
Are you sure there is nothing self-serving or self-gratifying about forgiveness? I'd really like your thoughts on that.
Oh, I suppose that some degree of mercy may have its roots in the human ego. You know, I forgive thee because I am a better person? But I really don't think that represents the majority of the species nor of the instance of forgiveness.
It is, after all, a purely individual choice. There are no man-made laws that demand one do this kind of thing. If we do forgive, it is OUR choice.
It wasn't my intention to frame the stereotyping remark... it's just that living in the south, one does tend to run into the regional bigotry quite often. And being no saint myself, I tend to pay out as much rope as needed for a self hanging lol.
it is... none of it, perfect. I am not above needing forgiveness on occasion, both from others and myself.
To err is entirely human