reply to post by mmiichael
Your behind the scenes real history is always fascinating and has some points worth serious examination. I wish half of it were true.
But it's just so loaded with old wives tales misinformation, wonky speculations, grafted onto bits and pieces of documented history - one doesn't
know where to start dissecting.
Hi Mike my friend, I hope life is treating you well. I am a veritable font of often useless knowledge picked up from an assortment of sources ranging
from cab drivers, mentors, wise old men hanging out in caves on the side of mountain tops, to history books and encyclopedias, documentaries, first
hand experience, the first hand experience of others, and of course most importantly what the Chinese write down inside of Fortune Cookies.
Honestly some of it there is no way to dissect, the old wife’s tails are easy, both literally and figuratively, I just go ahead and jump right in
the pool after enjoying a big full meal, or slap a slab of butter on a burn and say hey mom I didn’t sink, and wow this burn feels even worse
now!
I am working on creating a time machine to go back in time and debunk and confirm everything else but alas like Barack Obama all I can contribute
myself is an empty shell for the Machine and I am waiting for experts to fill in and construct the rest and make it work. Odds on whether I get my
time machine working before Barack fixes the economy?
OK, just a couple highlights. There never were 12 Tribes, lost or stolen. A division of Judea and Samaria, but the other 10 are Sunday School biblical
mythology. Hebrew history, we now know, is a blend of Sumerian, Babylonian, Assyrian, Egyptian history mixing real people and events with a pile of
cultural fairly tales. Read some real Biblical history sometime - like Thomas L. Thompson. He and the Scandinavian school show a very different
historical record based on comparisons of other written documents and accounts, the geological and anthropological record, newly translated writings,
etc.
Some say there were thirteen tribes! Thirteen pops up a lot so if there were tribes there must have been thirteen. Watch the inner workings of an evil
genius mind at work and see how the gears reach positive conclusions! Fascinating isn’t it? I am pretty sure the Habiru and Hapiri (Hebrews) were
spread out from modern day Armenia and Turkey, through out the Mediterranean along the Southern coast of Spain and the Northern Coast of Africa and
Egypt, throughout the Middle East throughout the Mesopotamian Delta and across the Gulf into Persia. I base this on their modern day descendants love
of travel, and their enterprising ways, so I feel it’s safe to say whether there was one tribe, 3 tribes, 6 tribes a dollar, that they were pretty
much everywhere you could make a dollar!
What you will notice in a lot of my posts is words like ‘purportedly’ and ‘supposedly’ and ‘rumored’ and ‘claimed’ and
‘theorized’.
This is my way of passing along the vast array of information my mind records and catalogs that I have no credible way to dissect since my time
machine is not working yet, and no one ever thinks to give me one for my Birthday or Christmas…as being of ‘dubious’ source…it could be true,
it could not be true.
Yet where ever there does exist a ‘lie’ of dubious source, it came into being as a ‘lie’ because someone, somewhere really wanted to
‘hide’ the truth, and also create an ‘illusion’.
As learned men we both know things are seldom what they appear to be on the surface and much of the world revolves on ‘illusion’.
I always use those prefacing words when stating information I myself don’t feel is entirely credible or accurate and somewhat illusionary in it’s
nature and if you look back at my post, in fact most of my posts on every topic and thread I post on, you will see a lot of those ‘prefacing’
words meant to be disclaimers, as I expound by theorizing on what might be the underlying truth, or to fill in the gaps of an ‘illusion’ someone
else did a poor job of creating.
I honestly truly don’t know a credible way to dissect some things Mike because there typically are so many competing sources of information that the
only way to authenticate them would to be there at the time, and for everyone that wants to believe something there is a version made to seem as
credible as possible, and for everyone who wants to disbelieve something there is a version made to seem as credible as possible.
I just throw it out there along with the disclaimers and my own theories and let smarter people like your self decide for yourself!
I certainly can liven up an otherwise dead party where no one else is talking and ran out of things to say though!
The Al Saud family really can't be traced back more than the 15th Century. Like so many they have invented a noble & righteous prehistory for
themselves. It would be interesting if they were interesting. But just a gang of barbaric Bedouins lucking out in the 1930s finding the sand beneath
their feet was awash in oil, not much lineage. Had they played their cards right, they'd be the richest people on the planet.
There is this little kind of obstructive hazy kind of fuzzy thing that happens before the 15th Century it’s called the DARK AGES, in fact not a
whole lot of information has come out of the dark ages except that they were dark, except that they weren’t real fun times to be alive, and that it
was dark, and they weren’t real fun times to be alive.
My own personal ‘Theory’ is the dark ages were primarily used to stamp out pagan religions, first nations peoples, indoctrinate the world into the
trinity of Abraham’s religions and obscure all other versions of history as best as could be done so that when they lifted the veil of darkness
everyone would be more or less seeing the same ‘illusion’.
No telling who any of these major players were during and before the Dark Ages, unless you have a Time Machine…mine is still not working darn it, oh
what I wouldn’t give for a fun afternoon at the Coliseum, and a stroll through the Library at Alexandria.
The Vatican is another matter. Did you know there were two Jewish Popes. And that doesn't include the one who died a few years ago whose Polish
mother's birth certificate says 'Juden'
I am still pretty sure the Vatican is smoke for the actual Romans and the Empire, I still think the Seborgans drive that monstrosity and everything it
drives and the Priestly Class worships the sun through stained glassed windows buzzed out of their minds on psychedelic mushrooms that resemble their
robes whiffing incense and drinking cheap wine. People seem to love to sit their and sing and kneel and watch though, so as long as they aren’t
hurting anyone…
This is not an attempt to put down your efforts so much as a plea to get more of your facts straight. The ultimate conspiracy story of the ages would
be great, backed up by some solid historical facts.
In part that is why I am on ATS is to get as many facts straight as possible, where it is possible. I can tell you this though friend Mike even if I
had every fact, even if I knew precisely the grand conspiracy in all it’s details, even if I laid them all out, without a typo, bad grammar or my
debauched sense of humor…no one would believe it exactly as I put it out, and no one would believe every source as being factual…
Which is why it’s kind of like the old IBM Instant Replay Moment on the televised National Football League games where “You make the call”!
It's really hard to keep up with your back and forth. 
