UFO outside airplane window, page 2

reply to post by skyeyes

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Good observation, I agree the cowling illumination looks much different than the UFO illumination. Sometimes the jpg compression causes a halo effect around object with high contrast.

I don't think it's a water droplet, and it doesn't look like an aircraft. Not sure what it is.

Originally posted by Arbitrageur
reply to post by skyeyes

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Good observation, I agree the cowling illumination looks much different than the UFO illumination. Sometimes the jpg compression causes a halo effect around object with high contrast.

I don't think it's a water droplet, and it doesn't look like an aircraft. Not sure what it is.

You can see the suns location its reflected in the engine of the jet and after looking at it doesnt match the object since the sun is to the left of the plane the object should not be darkest at the side facing the plane. This tells me it was added in the picture. It became obvious when i started looking at lighting values in the photo.

reply to post by dragonridr

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...doesnt match the object since the sun is to the left of the plane the object should not be darkest at the side facing the plane.

I'm looking again this morning and invite everyone to look carefully at the shadows of the clouds, on the water below. Also, look at the engine nacelle (cowling) you can see the reflection of the Sun. THAT is difficult to judge, exactly, where the Sun is because of many factors -- the attitude of the airplane being the most obvious. The curve of the cowl makes it difficult as well.

My experience with objects ON the window itself has been that they blur out, when the focus is set to infinity in order to get a clear dstance shot. The clouds are sharp and in focus, the engine cowl is in focus, so anything just inches away from the lens (and on the window) would likely be blurred.

OP said it was morning, but it must have been late morning, again judging from the cloud shadows. We also know it was May, and we know the approximate Latitude range, so we have an idea of the Sun's angle that time of year and that Northern Latitude at any given time of day.

just throwing stuff out there, seeing what might stick....

I wanted to add, again from the info the OP provided:

OP was on a RyanAir flight from Portugal (Faro? Porto? They don't fly to Lisboa). I'm assuming, since it's RyanAir, the destination was in the UK.

(Glasgow? Stansted, London?)

Anyway, airplane course would be North/NorthEast, and the Sun, of course, would be on the airplane's right and (slightly forward) side, high (assuming mid to late morning). That fits with the reflection of the Sun on the cowl. AND the shadows of the clouds, on the Atlantic.

Looking at a schedule from Porto to Stansded, for instance, on RyanAir shows departure at 0925 and arrival at 1145. (Flights from Faro depart in afternoon and evenings).

[edit on 6 July 2009 by weedwhacker]

reply to post by raptorinvictus

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If you're referring to flaws in the plastic...imperfections that cause transparency defects...again, I can't see how it would not be blurred and/or not even in the photo at all.

We don't know how much the pic has been manipulated. Cropped? Enlarged? I see no window frame. The camera may have been placed right up against the plastic when the shutter snapped. How would a defect only inches from the lens show up so clearly? Take a photo yourself, you'll see the focal range of the ordinary lens cannot get a sharp image that close, unless it's in a 'macro' mode...and then the depth of field would not be sufficient for the distant clouds to be in focus....

woow

nice find

here is a similar event from Serbia - balkans - Europe

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by atlasastro

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Could it be the vent hole between the outer hull acrylic and the inner window for pressure differential?

Thought of that. The vent hole (Boeings) is at the bottom. The placement is incorrect, in the picture.

Based on a SouthWest Airlines seat map {seatguru.com} (a US discount all-economy airline using B737 exclusively, and their seating configuration...no seat maps for RyanAir were found) it looks as if the photo was snapped from about row six or seven. I KNOW it's a B737, because of the engine cowling (and RyanAir flies the B737-800 exclusively).

SO, just eliminating some of the more obvious possibilities, leaving open more ideas. SO FAR (except for CGI) evidence is pointing to something outside the airplane. A photography/computer expert would be useful...

[edit on 6 July 2009 by weedwhacker]

Originally posted by 0nce 0nce

Originally posted by Wobbly Anomaly
Taken by me from the window of a ryanair flight returning from portugal in may this year.

Did you only take one picture?

It would be really nice if you could post another picture of it too. It will help with figuring out what it is. It will help determining the distance of the object.

Until then, it just looks like something on the window, because we can't determine distance without relying on your word.

Cant determine..... what!?!?

We have multiple points of reference including the most obvious ones. We have gunk on the window to determine the distance from window to camera. We have a jet engine both to use as a point of reference. A droplet surviving on a window at 500 mph?

It cant be ice, because at those altitudes water becomes supercooled without turning to ice. Here is a link to scientific information that will give you some idea of what I'm talking about here. I can't quote it because it's in PDF.

Link to PDF

/sigh

reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly

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While you're at it give us the raw image. Straight from the camera please.

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