Originally posted by skibtz
reply to post by free_spirit
If there is a chance that the videos are CGI then having the raw data could help resolve that issue.
It would also help to determine how the events unfolded without prejudice.
Personally, I am with the balloon/kite concept and the raw video could help resolve that line of enquiry.
By not releasing the raw data, the owners are ensuring that only carefully selected
investigators/researchers (cohorts?) get to examine the raw data and provide a
(biased?) opinion.
The longer they refuse access to the raw data the longer the case may go on.
Not a problem though as Maussan and Co. are getting some great publicity in the
process
Don't get me wrong, I am happy to sit by and wait for this to unfold in it's own time - it
is not my integrity on the line at the end of the day...
And for all I know, you may well be Jaime Maussan!!
[edit on 6/9/2009 by skibtz]
There is always a chance that a new UFO video turns out to be a CGI creation, let't
remember the YouTube experience. But when you have the original raw footage and
you test it's authenticity the very first thing in general a good researcher is trying to
determine is that the footage was not tampered by digital manipulation. But that is not
the only purpose of the analysis, once established the footage was not doctored then
researchers should study every frame trying to learn what was caught on tape, trying
to understand if posible the nature of that specific phenomena recorded by that witness.
This study may help to find some clues if this was a mundane sighting like a
meteorological phenomena, an optical illusion, a distorted image due to a bad digital
zooming etc. There are many purposes involved in a professional analysis to a video
evidence, not only to be sure it was or not a CGI.
The task is more complicated because a real ufologist follows the leads a UFO sighting
left behind like footprints on a piece of video and also interpretations arise when the
video is discarding those mundane posibilites.
You mention the kite/balloon posibility, that is a good approach also trying to find
natural explanation to this sighting, if it resulted not a digital animation then we have to
see for the immediate second option in this case the posibility of a balloon display of
some kind, an exhibition with or without a remote control. But examining the
movements and behavior of those spheres along with the whole context of the images
displayed the balloon theory seems almost impossible, at the end the dispaly would
have to be recreated in the same conditions. Do you think it would be performed one
day?
There is something you should know because it seems you are blaming the witnesses
for something wich is unfair. I'm not the only researcher who received a copy of the
raw footage, there are some other researchers who like me also received a copy for
the same purposes, to make an impartial evaluation and veredict as part of an
investigation, I said this before and Im telling you now. The witnesses live in Mexico
and they provided their footages to the television people just like in the US UFO
witnesses with important evidences try CNN, NBC, CBS but these networks are not
interested so they go to MUFON or the Internet. Are you going to blame all of them
for taking the wrong decision and not deliver their videos to the one of your choice?
Think about it.
I received a copy of two raw footages, I made my own analysis and I spent some
money in a videolab with the right equipment and the right people, it's my job. If
I would have found a single trace of tampering by digital manipulation I would be the
first to denounce it debunking this case right here since this thread started. I have
debunked many cases in this forum but by presenting evidences. In these footages
I couldn't find any sign of external digital manipulation, what the frames are showing
were there of origin and this was confirmed by other colleagues of mine when we
emailed each other at that time. We concluded this was not a CGI animation but we
didn't know what this was, a real phenomena or maybe a natural or man made idisplay
of some kind, More investigation had to be done.
I will be very satisfied to find an answer to this case, to solve the mystery. I'm not
saying and will never say this was a spacecraft from other world with aliens or little
green man inside, these are old cliches invented by those debunkers to ridiculize the
UFO Phenomenon. I said and Im still sustaining this is a rare phenomena caught on
tape by two different witnesses that remains unidentified to me. If there are efforts
to debunk this case they would have to be executed by presenting solid evidences to
support the allegations, at this level words mean nothing, evidences mean everything.
[edit on 6-9-2009 by free_spirit]