I don’t think anyone truly wants to start ww3 but unfortunately when you have a leader in Iran who is hell bent of taking us all there; I would rather start and end it on our terms. Sometimes you can’t run from a bully, there are times when you need to smack him first and quickly to keep him from hitting you harder later.

i did not say anything about a nuke war. far from that, why would a country nuke the other over there, that is just dumb. not only the resources would be gone but peoples around the area would be affected. no nukes used here at all. you would have to be a pretty mad man over there to use them. no i mean, missle attack no nukes and ground assault.

Originally posted by Rockstrongo37
I don’t think anyone truly wants to start ww3 but unfortunately when you have a leader in Iran who is hell bent of taking us all there; I would rather start and end it on our terms. Sometimes you can’t run from a bully, there are times when you need to smack him first and quickly to keep him from hitting you harder later.

Do you really believe that Iran is the bully in this situation? I agree with your assessment on what to do with bullies, but I think you have been watching too much faux news.

money ,power. it will all come to an end very shortly. slavery of wimen, children over there. all pathetic. and if you say something, you get shot. i say start a new over there and end the tyranny. all them countries over there are like that. ask an iranian american what he thinks about his wife being over there and how things work. he will tell ya. so get rid of the sorry old way and in with the new way of thinking of peoples over there. so war and have a big war over there and hope change for the good arrives in the name of free the wimen and children.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower

A nation can't be held accountable for giving money to "political parties" that are tied to terrorist activities. We view those people as terrorists, but the people of Gaza see them as liberators standing up for their rights.

What? You can't be serious? It's one thing to say the people can't be held accountable for what their government does. It's completely wrong to say that a government "can't be held accountable for giving money to "political parties" that are tied to terrorist activities." Many people like yourself seem to hold the US accountable for everything bad that has happened in the world for the last 200 years. According to this line of thought it was US influence or money or support that lead to every atrocity imaginable.

Do you not see your statement as a double standard? I am not trying to argue that the US has not done horrible things in the past and probably will do more in the future. But I totally disagree with your statement that Iran can't be held accountable. They are totally and deliberately supporting people who kill not only innocent Israelis but innocent Palestinians, Syrians, Lebonese, Iraqis, and even Iranians! The Iranians have the blood of many thousands of people on their hands. They may not have actually pulled the trigger themselves, but they are just as guilty.

I still believe all they want is to be left alone, which they will be once they have a Nuclear weapon, I don't doubt that happening. Israel won't dare do anything once they are certain they have the capability of turning Jerusalem into a glass crater.

I also believe Iran wants to be left alone. They want to be left alone so they can continue using all kinds of proxies to pursue their agenda. They are smart enough to know that if they only use proxies to do their dirty work they can keep pleading to be an innocent victim of US aggression.

And, just for the record, I get my news from lots of media sources including the Internet, CNN, ABC, New York Times and lots of other places - not just Fox News.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower

Ohh, I wasn't referring to you with the media propaganda, but let's all remember that most of the sources you listed are own by Rupert Murdoch, Ted Turner and other ilk. All to be avoided really is what I'm getting at.

So what media sources do you recommend for getting the truth? I'm not being snotty, just curious.

Yes I see how my comment could be a double standard, it's understandable. But again, until Iran actually DOES something as the nation, then there is no need to pursue a violent agenda against them as Israel and the US have done.

I see a violent agenda in both directions, by both parties.

Blood is on everybody's hand, there is no innocent parties anymore. All we have left are instigators and the people who get baited into conflict by them.

This is a sad, but very true assessment.

Everybody needs to take a big long breather. And the US needs to reign in it's lapdog before they find themselves in a situation they can't get out of.

I think one could argue who is the lapdog and who is the master. I also don't know if the US can "reign in" Israel and more than we can "reign in" Canada. We are allies and have strong historical ties, but that is a long way from any kind of real control. Even if the US withdrew all of its financial support Israel would probably make new "friends". They have lots of technology and capabilities they could offer in return for support.