I am scared of the prospect of Israel attacking Iran, page 1
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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 01:06 PM by grapesofraft
reply to post by downtown436



Well if you are right and there are two competing cabals fighting to take over control of the world then wont they do it eventually no matter what excuse they use?


reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 01:20 PM by downtown436
reply to post by ZeroKnowledge



I think Iran has about 200 nuclear weapons already. I think that if they are attacked they will nuke our troops in Iraq, and Israel will be a smoldering pothole. I think that they bought between 200-250 nuclear weapons from Ukraine just after the fall of the Soviet Union. They range from artillery shell nukes, to back pack nukes, to standard H-bombs that are designed for use on ICMB's.

Did you see where Biden Gave the green light for attack today?


reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 01:24 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by downtown436



I'd like to see sources for those numbers. I have never seen anything that would indicate that Iran already has Nuclear weapons. That's what they are attempting to stop with the recent rhetoric and harsh criticism.

~Keeper


reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 01:48 PM by downtown436
reply to post by tothetenthpower



archive.newsmax.com...

www.atimes.com...

www.nti.org...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.news.com.au...

I would be shocked if Iran had no nukes. It is possible that out of all the missing nukes in the world, none made it to Iran, but I would bet a large amount of money that Iran has a lot of nukes.



reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 02:02 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by downtown436



These are all just speculation however. There are no registries of inventory that include Nuclear Weapons in Iran. Besides if any other nation thought that they had them already, somebody would have attacked them, or they wouln't be threatening too.

The one thing Iran wants more than anything else, is the ability to do what it wants without pressure from international parties. The only way to do that is to have a Nuclear Weapon, the last symbol of power and autonamy in this world.

If they had one, they would not be hiding it.

~Keeper


reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 02:11 PM by pudgeego
i do not like war, but the chances of war are getting greater and greater by the year with isreal and iran. while the depletion of the oil elephant in saudi gets worse, meaning rationing countries on how much they can get to different nations, like saudi already has to the united states saying we can only purchase so much. saudi going dry, iran is rich in oil and stockpiles it everywhere. i beleive the usa has been surrounding iran. going into all the countries around it looking for terrorist groups. waiting for termoil to hit iran, so the united states can come in and clean up so we have a secure oil future. usa is going bankrupt and dyeing. if we as americans, the big wigs dont take heed and do something about this we are done as a country. if kim jon ill can say and threaten usa,stopping his ships is an act of war and bring over 200,000 men to invade and by the time you bring in the next 200,000 you will be bankrupt and kim jon ill will win and clean up the americans financially and let them war within.
i beleive that greed and a power struggle is happenning now. the little countries are ganging up on the usa. and usa is spread out way too thin. we cannot even protect our borders. grandma is protecting them with a shot gun. this is sad. i believe this greed power struggle is comming to a head. and like a boil it will pop. very soon something is going to happen in the august month, the stock market. i also believe iran and isreal will clash very soon and saudi will have something to do with that and when that happens the usa gets involved and a little later the stock market will crash and all the greedy fat rats will go running out of the usa to some country for sanctuary. then kim jon ill and his friends will attack the usa on 3 fronts. washington state, mexico and florida. i hope the cannadians come marching down to our aid.


reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 02:31 PM by itguysrule
reply to post by downtown436



I too would be shocked if Iran had no nuclear weapons. I doubt they have 200, but they may have 6 or 10 that they "acquired" through some black market operations - probably from some former Soviet satellite. I also think they are smarter than to "pop-off" the first one they get their hands on. They seem to be pretty shrewd in a lot of ways so I could see them "saving up" their weapons until they have enough to totally flatten Israel in one blow.

It appears to me that the government of Iran (not the people) really does have some kind of apocalyptic plan. Although many people will disagree with my view, I see the current power struggle in the Middle East as just another chapter in the religious conflicts that have existed for a thousand years or more. The warring sides have decimated each other and then rebuilt only to do the whole thing over many times. The only thing I see as different this time is that the weapons are more powerful and the deaths will be counted in millions rather than hundreds of thousands.


reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 02:36 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by itguysrule



Iran has never shown agression or towards or attacked another nation. They are being portrayed by biased media as the new Iraq, building public support for the incoming conflict, nothing more.

We aren't talking about North Korea here, were talking about Iran, yes their government is corrupt and run by religion, but so is the US.

The people obviously want something more as we've seen with the protests in recent weeks, so there is no reason to demonize all of them for their lame governments reaction.

As I said, they would be more than happy to tell the rest of the world to leave them alone if they had a Nuclear weapon, and they haven't, they would have no reason to hide that, unless they actually enjoy being walked on by the UN and other countries.

~Keeper


reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 03:22 PM by itguysrule
reply to post by tothetenthpower



You are absolutely correct that the PEOPLE of Iran do not want war any more than you or I do. The problem is with the government of Iran and the people who actually have their fingers "on the button." It is very clear from recent events that they care nothing for what their citizens actually want. Their brutal crackdown on their own people shows their ruthlessness. If the leaders of Iran are so willing to kill their own people in front of the whole world, what makes you think they would hesitate for an instant to destroy anyone else who threatens their power? It seems to me that killing your own people on the streets shows your true character far more clearly than any media campaign for or against you could do.

I also have to disagree with the assertion that Iran has "never shown aggression or towards or attacked another nation." It may be true that Iran has not lined up 50 divisions and marched across their border to attack another nation. BUT - I don't think anyone can claim that Iran is not supporting groups such as Hamas and Hezbolla who are actively attacking nations and individuals all over the world. Whatever their reason or justification for supporting these groups, they are funding and actively supporting terrorism, murder and all kinds of other atrocities.


reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 03:28 PM by downtown436
reply to post by tothetenthpower



No I think you are wrong. North Korea and Pakistan have proven that if you actually get nuke in this day and age, the world leaves you alone.

It would be a pretty good reason that after all this time of threatening to bomb Iran, Israel has known that Iran has nukes already. Therefore if that is the case, Israel may never actually attack.

If Iran declares that they have nukes, they will not be attacked.


reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 03:31 PM by downtown436
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to
post by itguysrule





As I said, they would be more than happy to tell the rest of the world to leave them alone if they had a Nuclear weapon, and they haven't, they would have no reason to hide that, unless they actually enjoy being walked on by the UN and other countries.

~Keeper


Okay, I see your point. I don't know why they would hide it if they have nukes.

It could be that the higher ups in the U.S. and Israel know what is going on and they are just in the fear business.


reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 03:33 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by downtown436



That's exactly what I was saying. They obviously don't have a Nuke or they'd have screamed it at the top of their lungs for the world to leave them alone or else. Which would be in their right.

~Keeper
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