We are approaching the eighth anniversary of 9/11. In those eight years, we keep hearing that 9/11 was an "inside job" and all of the other claims the 9/11 "Truth" Movement have made.

But in those eight years nothing of substance has happened.

For those who still believe the claims of 9/11 "Truthers", exactly what has been accomplished? When can we expect any results?

What makes you think something is going to be done about 9/11 when economic atrocities are being committed everyday by our government and everyone would rather watch which doctor is being investigated over MJ............

It just want happen...............We need to forget about 9/11 and focus on the virus they just released on the people............9/11 will be nothing compared to the deaths we will see this fall........

Originally posted by Cloudsinthesky
It just want happen...............We need to forget about 9/11 and focus on the virus they just released on the people............9/11 will be nothing compared to the deaths we will see this fall........

We've been hearing this for a decade from Alex Jones. 80-90% of us are supposedly due to be wiped out at any point, and this has been the same for a decade.

If we don't see a huge catastrophe this autumn, with millions of people dying, will you come back and apologise? I doubt it, because Alex Jones will by then be spouting his drivel about the next major catastrophe which will never arrive.

Originally posted by jthomas
When can we expect any results?

Results? The truth movement exists only on the internet.

Really,here is a test:

1. Shut your computer off
2. Take a walk outside
3. Go to a bar
4. Go to the mall
5. Go to church
6. Go to temple.
7. Go to the beach
8. Go to the city.
9. Go somewhere!

While attending any of the above destinations, please note any talk of "911 was an inside job" If you take public transportation, you might be lucky enough to see a bumper sticker with the regurgitated "Inside Job" slogan on it.

Other than that, 911 "truth" does not exist. Therefor, outside truther websites and an occasional appearance by charlatan Richard "box boy" Gage, you will be hard pressed to see any "action" from the truth movement.

Action from 911 truthers = ZERO.



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posted by jthomas
When can we expect any results?

posted by CameronFox
Results? The truth movement exists only on the internet.

And yet right here on the internet alongside us 9-11 Truthers, also reside all you fanatic pseudoskeptic and government loyalist ANTI-Truthers.

You all claim we are getting nowhere and sneer at our growing numbers and boast that we have not proven one single thing; yet here you all are day after day matching our threads and posts, desperately trying to drown us out and shut us down.

What are you afraid of?

If we are getting nowhere;
If we have a hopeless cause;
If nobody is paying us any attention;
If the Mainstream News Media is ignoring us;
If the Congress is ignoring us;
If the US Judicial system is ignoring us;
If President Obama is ignoring us;

Then why are you all here day after day wasting your valuable time?

Well they kept Roswel covered up, and i use the term loosely, for nearly 70 years. 9/11 might take longer cuz it might have been treason, or it could have actually been al Quida. we may never know in our life time, or it could be disclosed tomorrow or next week.

Originally posted by SPreston
And yet right here on the internet alongside us 9-11 Truthers, also reside all you fanatic pseudoskeptic and government loyalist ANTI-Truthers.

I find it amusing every time you call a debunker a 'fanatic', your posts fit the definition of 'fanatical' down to the smallest detail. Are we really ultimately devoted to a cause? I think not. I post on here every few days, when I have enough time to put together a reasonable reply and I use very few extreme words or writing techniques.

You all claim we are getting nowhere and sneer at our growing numbers and boast that we have not proven one single thing; yet here you all are day after day matching our threads and posts, desperately trying to drown us out and shut us down.

I don't think any 'debunker' on here comes close to matching truther posts. I can only speak for myself but I don't have any intention of drowning you out or having you shut up. I am more than content to let you make a fool of yourself as loudly as you can.

What are you afraid of?
...
Then why are you all here day after day wasting your valuable time?

The time I spend here is not that valuable

Action from 911 truthers = ZERO.

You persecute Chandler in a thread of mine but he challenged the NIST report and they changed their stance. Go home and enjoy a book, problems do not exist if you deny them.

In the process of doing so a great truth was discovered: People who held to the word or the prelim also held to the word of the 'final'. This shows an incredible amount of bias and disregarding of facts.

Originally posted by jprophet420
Us "truthers" are still waiting for the official conspiracy theory to move beyond a working hypothesis with no arrests or charges.

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

It has, the recommendations proposed by NIST are being incorporated into building code. Their theory (note: not a hypothesis) has been accepted and while it may not be perfect, it does in fact provide by far the best fit to all evidence we have seen. No controlled demolition theory has even come close, despite the fact that these theories are worked out 'backwards', fitting the location of charges to the effects seen, rather than having evidence of the location of charges primarily.

This doesn't make it impossible, but to suggest that NISTs report is simply a hypothesis and that other theories may well be more developed is completely rubbish.

Furthermore, there have been arrests and charges in relation to 911. Who do you think Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is?

edit:

I'm not much for believing in prophets or anything like that (my nick is sarcasm) but he did pretty much call 911 beforehand.

That might be true, but how many predictions of his have not come true? Confirmation Bias leads people to think that there might be something in this, but in reality Jones uses the same method used by 'mediums'. He simply voices enough theories and concerns that when eventually he gets close to the right answer even by dumb luck, he proclaims it as proof he knew what was happening.

[edit on 5-7-2009 by exponent]

Originally posted by jprophet420


You persecute Chandler in a thread of mine but he challenged the NIST report and they changed their stance.

I did no such thing. I simply pointed you to an analysis of Mr. Chandler. I didn't say I agreed or disagreed with what the poster of the video states.

Originally posted by jprophet420
Go home and enjoy a book, problems do not exist if you deny them.

I do enjoy reading. I read non-fiction and I admit, I love to escape into a good fiction as well.

If you would like JP, I highly recommend:

"Against All Enemies" & "Your Government Failed You"- both by Richard Clark- both paint a very real picture of the mistakes our government continue to make.

"Circle in the Sand -Why We Went Back to Iraq" - Christian Alfonsi

"Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11 "-
Patrick Creed & Rick Newman

Originally posted by SPreston


And yet right here on the internet alongside us 9-11 Truthers, also reside all you fanatic pseudoskeptic and government loyalist ANTI-Truthers.

As years pass, the so called "truth movement " will spread their garbage trying to recruit more minions. There are some very young influential people on this site. They deserve to hear both sides of the argument. Don't you agree?

You all claim we are getting nowhere and sneer at our growing numbers and boast that we have not proven one single thing; yet here you all are day after day matching our threads and posts, desperately trying to drown us out and shut us down.

Shut you down? Nah, there is nothing to shut down. Your theories are self destructive. Did you go to a family picnic this weekend? Did you spout your paranoid rhetoric to your loved ones? Do you wonder why the were whispers and snickering?

Here we go, I fixed this SPreston:

we are getting nowhere;
we have a hopeless cause;
nobody is paying us any attention;
the Mainstream News Media is ignoring us;
the Congress is ignoring us;
the US Judicial system is ignoring us;
President Obama is ignoring us;

Then why are you all here day after day wasting your valuable time?

Like you, I am spreading the truth.

That might be true, but how many predictions of his have not come true? Confirmation Bias leads people to think that there might be something in this, but in reality Jones uses the same method used by 'mediums'. He simply voices enough theories and concerns that when eventually he gets close to the right answer even by dumb luck, he proclaims it as proof he knew what was happening.

Touché.

I think we can both agree that he is has been both right and wrong, but him being right does not make him 'the authority' anything either. For the record, I'm not a big fan, nor a "hater" of AJ. I however don't think it's quite like 'he just started talking crazyness and eventually some of those crazy things happened' either.

This doesn't make it impossible, but to suggest that NISTs report is simply a hypothesis and that other theories may well be more developed is completely rubbish.

Whoa.... ok semantics. They have a theory on how the collapse was initiated and an overall hypothesis then.

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