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reply posted on 6-5-2004 @ 01:17 PM by curme

Then again I ask, why is he a peace icon, I know the history of my country.


I kind of wish you knew the grammar of you're country, but to answer your question, here is what the Nobel Peace Prize people had to say:



The Nobel Peace Prize 1993

The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided to award the Nobel Peace Prize for 1993 to Nelson R. Mandela and Frederik Willem de Klerk for their work for the peaceful termination of the apartheid regime, and for laying the foundations for a new democratic South Africa.

From their different points of departure, Mandela and de Klerk have reached agreement on the principles for a transition to a new political order based on the tenet of one man-one vote. By looking ahead to South African reconciliation instead of back at the deep wounds of the past, they have shown personal integrity and great political courage.

Ethnic disparities cause the bitterest conflicts. South Africa has been the symbol of racially-conditioned suppression. Mandela's and de Klerk's constructive policy of peace and reconciliation also points the way to the peaceful resolution of similar deep-rooted conflicts elsewhere in the world.

The previous Nobel Laureates Albert Lutuli and Desmond Tutu made important contributions to progress towards racial equality in South Africa. Mandela and de Klerk have taken the process a major step further. The Nobel Peace Prize for 1993 is awarded in recognition of their efforts and as a pledge of support for the forces of good, in the hope that the advance towards equality and democracy will reach its goal in the very near future.


reply posted on 6-5-2004 @ 02:22 PM by TruthStrgnrThanFiction
If Mandela wasnt released to negiotiate with the old government in South Africa there would have been a blood bath...a civil war..blacks killing whites. That could still happen further down the line, some even say when Mandela dies the blacks will kill the whites like flies (a black politician was quoted as saying that)

The system of segregation is now purely economical, with poverty in black areas even worse now than they were under white rule.

People need to understand this one thing. Although all the nice PR on South Africa, Rainbow Nation etc never forget this: This country was BRAINWASHED and SOCIALLY ENGINEERED (every ethnic and racial group!!) for over a hundred years, long before the Afrikaans people took power. Blacks and Europeans were ALWAYS seperate. And to this day it continues. Blacks live in their areas and whites live in their own areas. The only difference is money, those with it move into the rich areas. So crime is bad here but more than 50% of the crime is black on black, after the pay check, they get tanked on booze..have a fight over a girlfriend which ends in a stabbing.

If they dont do anything about the poverty in South Africa the blacks will start land grabbing like in Zimbabwe and it could get much much worse. The problem now in South Africa is one ruling elite has been replaced by another black elite, who arent helping their own people (AIDS situation a prime example) The # thing is that if things get bad, because of the history it is the whites who will be attacked, and their wealth stolen.

Interestingly enough there is an afrikaans prophet called Van Rensburg who lived during the boer war (war between the boers in South Africa and the English for control of the vast mineral wealth there..funny that this prophet was almost shot dead because he started telling the Boers they werent going to win the war!!!) at the turn of the last century. you can read some of his writings at this site, they are in word docs :

www.geocities.com...

(i think this site is from an extremist, which I am not.. but its the only place i could find free extract from a book being sold on the prophet/seer..alot of the material is about South Africa so most of you wont know the stuff spoken about, but there is stuff in the last doc about the plagues that will hit England ...I personally hope this DOES NOT happen!)

Its pretty extreme, but basically mentions that the world will enter into decline South Africa will once again be ruled by the Boers (who are supposedly God fearing people..even made a covenant with God before a battle against the Zulus). Anyway his writings have been around for ages. General Smuts even locked them away for fear that they would insite civil war..and that was over 60 years ago. The current blacks in power now HATE even the mention of this man, manly because much of what he says has happened, and that the end of it will be the Afrikaaner back in power in South Africa!!! Im not too sure on his predictions, but logically thinking these Boer people were at one time VERY God fearing and as they have a historical connection to South Africa I guess they are the only "righteous" or "christian" group to inherit it.
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