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The source of all problems is the evolved ape, we are the problem.

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posted on Jul, 5 2009 @ 07:53 AM
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We have all researched several topics ranging from UFO's to aliens to secret society's etc... The thing we all have in common is wanting to find the truth where ever it may take us. But going past the superficial problems of society theire is a source problem a problem which is with out a doubt the human.

My question:

*Is an infant child born with bad properties, like corruption greed etc... or are these properties being brought out of the human because of the structure of society ?

Some people don't believe in this statement and say that every human being is born pure of heart, but then the question arises that if everyone is born pure of heart then why are we in the situation we are in now?

My answer, we humans have been bad all along.

Some people might say that this isn't true and that the monetary society placed humans into a situation where these elements of the human are accentuated but is this really the truth? Humans have been fighting eachother since the very beginning so how can someone say that humans are born pure of intent when we have never had true peace in this world?

The source of all problems if you dig deeper becomes YOU, all this conspiritorial material if brought in a deep psychelogical meaning it all comes to our selves and its our selves we have to change to better everything.

I don't even know if I should posts this anymore, I know it makes sence and to some it might seem obvious.




posted on Jul, 5 2009 @ 08:48 AM
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The problem isn't US. It is the EGO

The Ego is plainly, anything that the mind can identify its imaginary sense of self with. The ego is the part of the human mind that defends the things it likes against opposite opinions because it makes the ego feel diminished. Like if i told you flat out that you are wrong and an idiot-Your ego would snap back at me, rather conciously or unconciously, retorting that i am in fact wrong.

The sense of self, and not of the entirey is the problem, the ego is the problem. The ego seeks to seperate things, this is me, that is that. This belongs to me, this is my opinion, this is my story. Anything that has to do with me me my story my stuff my thoughts my opinion. This is all the ego, attempting to fill a mental void that cannot ever be satiated. The ego is not all bad, but many of its preoperties are the real reason we are the way we are. Really the egotistical problem we have is this.

MY religion is right, YOURS is wrong. MY political stance is right, YOURS is wrong. This is the ego at work. It doesn't allow the space for others to exist with oposing views, it seeks to discredit anything that is not itself soley for inflating itself.

The ego is the problem.



posted on Jul, 5 2009 @ 08:25 PM
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Humans started off as Animals just like all other animals. They killed other things and fought eachother over food. We did not start with a Heart at all, much less a pure heart. What happened is ambition. Ego. Trade.

When trade first started, we saw the beginnings of a barter system. One person trying to screw another person out of their belongings. To get more for less. And that is when psychology was born and the art of manipulation.

Many thousands of years of the top people learning and refining the art of manipulation and all for the most primal of all human traits. Money, power and luxury. The rest of humanity SEES these top ones get to the top because of this. They therefore mimic it, and try to screw anyone and everyone out of their things. Although the bottom feeders haven't been let in on the ancient art of manipulations most prized secrets and, therefore are seen as just bad people.

There you have it. People are not evil. The barter system and monetary system is what makes it seem that way.



posted on Jul, 6 2009 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by Ansiroth
The problem isn't US. It is the EGO

The Ego is plainly, anything that the mind can identify its imaginary sense of self with. The ego is the part of the human mind that defends the things it likes against opposite opinions because it makes the ego feel diminished. Like if i told you flat out that you are wrong and an idiot-Your ego would snap back at me, rather conciously or unconciously, retorting that i am in fact wrong.

The sense of self, and not of the entirey is the problem, the ego is the problem. The ego seeks to seperate things, this is me, that is that. This belongs to me, this is my opinion, this is my story. Anything that has to do with me me my story my stuff my thoughts my opinion. This is all the ego, attempting to fill a mental void that cannot ever be satiated. The ego is not all bad, but many of its preoperties are the real reason we are the way we are. Really the egotistical problem we have is this.

MY religion is right, YOURS is wrong. MY political stance is right, YOURS is wrong. This is the ego at work. It doesn't allow the space for others to exist with oposing views, it seeks to discredit anything that is not itself soley for inflating itself.

The ego is the problem.


yes, but we are still the problem, ego was there from the beginning. EGO didn't just evolve ego is animalistic but more complex.

ie: alfa males etc...

ego is a product of man and has been with us all the time so don't say its not us because ego is us.



posted on Jul, 6 2009 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by Mr. Toodles
Humans started off as Animals just like all other animals. They killed other things and fought eachother over food. We did not start with a Heart at all, much less a pure heart. What happened is ambition. Ego. Trade.

When trade first started, we saw the beginnings of a barter system. One person trying to screw another person out of their belongings. To get more for less. And that is when psychology was born and the art of manipulation.

Many thousands of years of the top people learning and refining the art of manipulation and all for the most primal of all human traits. Money, power and luxury. The rest of humanity SEES these top ones get to the top because of this. They therefore mimic it, and try to screw anyone and everyone out of their things. Although the bottom feeders haven't been let in on the ancient art of manipulations most prized secrets and, therefore are seen as just bad people.

There you have it. People are not evil. The barter system and monetary system is what makes it seem that way.


The system doesn't only seem evil, it is evil. And it is our own greed and mentality that brings forth these systems so again this is our product the product of the corrupt infant.

But we are still primitive beings and the evil will stop (it will have to if we want to evolve) because there is no evolution with evil its impossible.

The simple lesson is from people to look inward and try to do as much good as possible but the distractions are too much and many people don't care they just live infact I would say they are dead,... dead men walking.

The only thing that can bring us to our senses is something horrific, because humans don't move there brains if they forget the true meaning and beaty of life. And something of a high impact is surely to stir us up and change our .... everything.



posted on Jul, 6 2009 @ 01:25 PM
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I think Star Wars had a good angle on it.

Fear. (or how we respond to it)

Also the book I'm currently reading, which was suggested to me by people on this board has some good ideas on this. "A Canticle for Lebowitz."

[edit on 6-7-2009 by dragonking76]



posted on Jul, 6 2009 @ 01:32 PM
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So you arrived at conclusion that problems Human society has is because of ... Humans that make this society. This is deep. Profound. And i always assumed that it is due to reptile-bankers from another dimension
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I have to ask you, do you see any thing in this world that has no problems due to its structure? Rocks will crumble because it is "built" this way. Sun would die because it would eat itself up. So you rightfully claim that we are not perfect because we are born not perfect. And what is perfect exactly? Which life form is not egocentric? Horses can not invent money but there are lower class horses and high class ones. There is oppression, physical punishment, even murder. Wow. Horses are evil.
We are just more intelligent then horses, so impact of our bad/evil actions is much higher. Then at least do what Kurt Vonnegut did - blame it on our over-developed brain.



posted on Jul, 6 2009 @ 01:44 PM
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*Is an infant child born with bad properties, like corruption greed etc... or are these properties being brought out of the human because of the structure of society ?


There was a post on here yesterday where I person gave an example of three different people raised in different cultures and in different pay brackets. This persons examples answer this question quite well.

Meaning we are all brought up different and have different perspectives on Greed and structures of societies. Morals are different from person to person depending on where you were born and raised. I guess what I am saying is, Hate, Greed, Lust, Fear, and other things are all learned and FEEL that we are not pre programmed with them as an infant.



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