Please oh please don't let 60 minutes have any coverage of this meeting. They' take a Ahmedinejad comment such as "Thank you for deciding to have this conference with me Mr. Obama" and make it come out like "blow Israel off the map"

Originally posted by TXRabbit
Please oh please don't let 60 minutes have any coverage of this meeting. They' take a Ahmedinejad comment such as "Thank you for deciding to have this conference with me Mr. Obama" and make it come out like "blow Israel off the map"

Not only them, but a *LOT* of propaganda outlets would do that, just how they did to his original speeches
Talk about can't be trusted.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by open_eyeballs
.... for future reference...opinions are not facts....your same non-sensical b.s.

... for futre reference ... I posted facts - not 'non-sensical b.s'.
You have yet to disprove them.

The facts again - walkswithfish was correct.

Obama gave an interview to the New York Times - the article was entitled - Obama, Man of the World. In it, Obama said that the Muslim Call To Prayer was the most beautiful sound on earth. He then chanted it in 'perfect accent' for the author Nicholas D. Kristof .

First of all, you should actually read the article before quoting it. The actual quote is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset." NOT the most beautiful sound on earth. And he was talking about his life as a child in Indonesia. And what kind of idiot - I mean absolute IDIOT (or delusional mental patient) - takes one sentence and applies massive amounts vastly overreached conclusions and "meaning" to it?

I don't think you'd have quoted it correctly even if you'd had it, because reading through this thread I can see clearly you resort to dishonesty and distortion. And you obviously don't read.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Your massive quoting

Dear, Oh Goly Gosh! I'm shocked and deeply affected!...not. My message stands.

lies are against

Still scratching my head as to why you're not banned then.

OMG, coming from you that was funny

Back at ya!

blast them again directing them to stay on topic.

Yup, tell it like it is and remind them of them of the rules, that's me.


[edit on 6-7-2009 by ElloAll]

Originally posted by ClintK
The actual quote is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset." NOT the most beautiful sound on earth. And he was talking about his life as a child in Indonesia.

Thanks for digging this up.

It sounds unendorsingly neutral given the context.


Mike

Indonesia is a wonderful country but I fail to see what the big deal is about Obama or anyone learning three phrases that are used in a prayer. Heck I can sing the song Brother John in the original French and it didn't take any serious study and has more lines.

Frère Jacques, frère Jacques,
Dormez-vous? Dormez-vous?
Sonnez les matines! Sonnez les matines!
Ding, dang, dong. Ding, dang, dong.

While not the most beautiful sound at sunset, it is a nice melody for kids to sing. If Obama chose to learn a common prayer in his fathers part time religion... so what? He also knows several hymnals in the Christian faith. Would you be concerned if he sang 99 Luft Ballons?

Pointing to such trivial matters is meaningless, and what does any of this have to do with Ahmedinejad?

Ahmedinejad is becoming increasingly isolated and is grasping at straws in an attempt to remain relevant. Instead of going to the UN to meet with other leaders, or scheduling a meeting at the White House, he has simply chosen to rant on Television, about his desire to rant some more with Obama beside him and in front of reporters. There is little point to such grandstanding. If Ahmedinejad is serious about engaging in productive diplomacy, then he needs to negotiate in earnest, and not simply play to the cameras for propaganda.

Allah Snackbar.

Oh, and will someone wake up Brother John, Those French guys sleep right through the morning bells if you don't wake them. Must be all the wine.

Originally posted by Terapin
Ahmedinejad is becoming increasingly isolated and is grasping at straws in an attempt to remain relevant. Instead of going to the UN to meet with other leaders, or scheduling a meeting at the White House, he has simply chosen to rant on Television, about his desire to rant some more with Obama beside him and in front of reporters. There is little point to such grandstanding. If Ahmedinejad is serious about engaging in productive diplomacy, then he needs to negotiate in earnest, and not simply play to the cameras for propaganda.

This pretty much sums up Mr A. In a word - Insecure.

When you're the Pres of a country with 70 million and lots of problems, why aren't you working like a demon on domestic issues. What's the deal with hangin' with buddies like Chavez and Assad in Syria. Trying to show how well popular he is? Sort of high school geek showing he's cool.

He's thrust on the world stage, and it requires a high level of diplomacy.
Do your bloody nuclear program, but like everyone else before, just shut up about it. Do we need weekly reports?

The Ayatollahs chose him to put a name and a face to the country. As a clown act he's done irreperable damage to the Persian culture which once commanded a lot of respect.

Obama can't meet with him one on one because it will pull him down a notch to be seen taking this guy seriously.

What the West is sort of hoping for is Mr A will get pissed off by the rejection, throw a tantrum, make a really bad judgment call.

Real diplomacy is waiting till you opponent makes a really serious error and taking the upper hand. It's a matter of time.


Mike