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posted on May, 6 2004 @ 06:16 PM
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I know some of you would like to believe I'm here to "disinform" people so they won't believe in our Reptilian President or Jesus and his Hybrid powers but I'm, unfortunately for you, not.


Hmm, this statement is not clear, and in fact could be interpretted in a way which you might not want it to be (or is it?)

Let the people decide.




posted on May, 6 2004 @ 06:25 PM
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TheQuietStorm
you know, i saw you had posted last and was trying to think of where i had heard you name before. as soon as i saw your writing i remembered: the "the school system is faulty"or "anyone lese here feel the same way?" yes, your writing style is very recognizable: endless rhetoric and insults every other line. please, for the love of GOd or any other higher being you might beleive in,
SHUT THE H3LL UP
you have contributed NOTHING in your 3 or so posts except to insult Preest and disrupt the the flow of this thread. You are perhaps the MOST USELESS member of ATS I have encountered.

EITHER GET ON TOPIC OR STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD

now Preest, as you were saying.....


Do I have a better idea of how your theory might have happened or worked? Maybe I'm missing the question.

yes, that is the question. do you have any ideas/speculations on how all evidence of a "first gen" human civilization might have been wiped out.



I understand speculation can be fun...but it also leads to obsession and eventually instability.

how so? i have speculated on many things most of my life without any ill effects. in the tradition of ATS, do you have any evidence of this?


just ignore TheQuietStorm. he'll shut up eventually....


[Edited on 6-5-2004 by NothingMakesSense]



posted on May, 6 2004 @ 07:06 PM
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endless rhetoric and insults every other line. please, for the love of GOd or any other higher being you might beleive in,


Thanks for the compliment, but how do I insult every other line?

How am I insulting anyways? Do you see any name calling, ridicule, or intimidation in my posts?

Yes I do like to question everything some people say but that is beacuse most are still slaves to their own language.

I have contributed lots on this board by making others aware of themselves and contributing to free exchange of ideas rather than condemning, ridiculing, or intimidating by scaring other's off into making them think they themselves are crazy.

NOthingmakessense you aren't a moderator so you can't tell me what to do, if you have a problem with my posts then please by all means report me to the moderators, they will know what to do with me.

How can one Preest promote free thinking, and then, ridicule other free thinkers as loons or psychos, or unstable? Doesn't make sense to me does it. Very contradictory.



posted on May, 6 2004 @ 07:14 PM
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ignoring.....ignoring....ignoring.....ignoring



Preest, why does such a parasite ride on your back?

[Edited on 6-5-2004 by NothingMakesSense]



posted on May, 6 2004 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by NothingMakesSense
ignoring.....ignoring....ignoring.....ignoring



Preest, why does such a parasite ride on your back?

[Edited on 6-5-2004 by NothingMakesSense]


Yes, very good question although I think it should be restated, as you do not know if parasites are really on his back.


It should be restated to "why do so many on this board assume he is a disinformationist who likes to use intimidation to scare off those who open themselves up to exchange ideas which are not common to the mass people of society?"

Now Preest, WHY would we? Is there something going on? Do we all just like to pick on you? Are you a target? Are you doing something that would suggest that you are trying to close people's minds to ideas intentionally? Are we "crazy/unstable?"

Be honest now and don't lie to yourself.

I wish he could answer that correctly, although I know he probably would answer with "because they are crazy! bla bla bla *insert intimidatinon* *insert insult* *insert more patterns which he has contributed to this board over and over again".... unless of course he wants to stand back from his patterns and be aware of what he is doing so that he can correct it himself. He is solely responsible for attracting what he has attracted to himself.

We know something, and we are standing up for what we beleive in. Others may have just chosen to ignore him, knowing what he is, but I insist on informing people, so that people can have free exchange of ideas and information without having to be scared of others making fun of them, for this is a community about conspiracy theories where this is SUPPOSED to be accepted!

Now I know, things should not have escalated to this point in this post, and in fact, Preest wasn't as extreme in this post because I pointed him out in others, but there is a purpose in all of the confrontations leading up to this one.

Don't worry the people will figure it out on their own what is going on.

Both of you wonderful people have a good nite.

[Edited on 6-5-2004 by The Quiet Storm]

[Edited on 6-5-2004 by The Quiet Storm]



posted on May, 6 2004 @ 10:03 PM
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Amen, I have been feeling like that, and I knew I was not the only one!That guy needs a friend!



posted on May, 6 2004 @ 11:03 PM
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ok Ill join in if I may......

How about that first generation humans come from the planet Mars? and THAT is the planet they destroyed? and we CAN see the evidence of theyre existance from telescopes...IE: the face on Mars..the Pyramid...and areas of the planet that LOOK like they could have been canals at one time? sure looks like if it WAS livable one time it got blasted all to *@$& !!! YA BABY YA THIE MISSING LINK IS MARTIENS!!!

Maybe they made it to Earth prior to the self caused catasrophy and started a NEW colony on Earth (IE: 2nd Gen Humans:but in order to live in THIS atmosphere we had to be alterd genetically HENCE the monkey DNA)....and in doing so we see replicas of the society they had on Mars....like the architecture in Egypt and in Mexico?
MAYBE the so called 'hidden' secerets burried under the paws of the Sphinx will will connect humankind with Martiens?

(this is the part where I take a break to flirt with Preest
ff topic I digress......
OOOOOOO baby baby kiss kiss I have a crush on your BRAIN!)

Ok.... so not ALL the Martiens came to populate planet Earth.....some stayed behind and others could have been designated TRAVEL groups, in this solar system or elswhere HECK if I KNOW where...so maybe they are 'our' ALiens watching out for signs of ENLIGHTENMENT from us? like where are these missing tribes of Isreal?? where did the Mayans go? let alone the Atlantians, and dont forget the lost continent of Mu....... Maybe once a society becomes enlightened enough to UNDERSTAND are true origons and capabilitys they like 'win a prize' and get 'rescued' from THIS planet where all the TOUGH GUY MINDSET creatures are left to work it out on theyre own?

(did I stay on topic enough? I tried!


[Edited on 6-5-2004 by theRiverGoddess]



posted on May, 7 2004 @ 12:54 AM
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Well first of all i don't think we destroy ourselves, there are bigger threats than us small litle humans, like comets, black holes ect.
it could be that they tried once to make life grow on mars but joust as a litle experiment until they choosed earth. If we(the humans on earth) was so advanced one of our missions would be to find planets that is sutable for life. Joust look around there aren't ONE specie on earth that could not Compare our intelligence even 1% And so special species(us) cant joust POP out of nothing in a so short while.
And the DNA of a Neanderthal aren't even Close to our DNA. Are we the "Aliens"



posted on May, 7 2004 @ 01:13 AM
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It was a long time ago, when i think about it our bodies are old... Out of Date... we need new bodies more advanced and stuff



posted on May, 7 2004 @ 06:23 AM
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both of you guys (the river goddess and cardu) have good points. maybe we did come from mars. i kind of doubt it because the atmosphere is too thin, no fertile soil... but if the solar system isn't static (and i don't thnk it is) then a long time ago mars could have been just like earth.



Well first of all i don't think we destroy ourselves, there are bigger threats than us small litle humans, like comets, black holes ect.

in all probability we didin't. just in soime way the first gen was mostly wiped out. alien invasion?...
i'm still waiting for Preest to come back.

and like i said, ignore The QuietStorm unless he manages to make a valid contribution to the thread without any piddleing insults (i'm not a mod so i can't enforce this but take it as advice)



posted on May, 7 2004 @ 08:24 AM
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Maybe the River goddess is right, maybe we did come from mars... we could actually be from anywhere.. i just had a thought of similarity between that idea, and the new remake of the planet of the apes. (think about what happens to the monkey's ship in the movie, and the space ship too..)
and when i got back on this thread, i didnt think this would flare up anybody, but it just make me laugh my A$$ off...



posted on May, 7 2004 @ 09:21 AM
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we could actually be from anywhere.. i just had a thought of similarity between that idea, and the new remake of the planet of the apes. (think about what happens to the monkey's ship in the movie, and the space ship too..) and when i got back on this thread, i didnt think this would flare up anybody, but it just make me laugh my A$$ off...

please elaborate. i haven't seen the movie so i don't really know what you're talking about. and i don't care if you spoil it so go ahead and tell all.



posted on May, 7 2004 @ 10:12 AM
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well, on the movie, it starts out that this guy that works for the united earth space foundation has a huge laboratory in space. and he is exploring the galaxy, and he see's this ship that has been lost in space for a long time, so when he sends one of his chimp's (his favorite one) out to the ship, and the chimp goes into a worm hole. so the guy goes after his chip, and goes through the worm hole, and crashes onto a planet. it goes on to show humanity in enslavement by the apes that rule the planet, and while he is there, he finds out that it always wasnt like this, and he finds what is the ruins of his laboratory, that was crashed some million years ago, and the apes survived, and evolved into smarter beings that took over the primitive humans there. tward the end of the movie, the chimp ( the one the guy was originally going after), see's the signal from where they guy tries to afterburn the ship (cause he is fighting an army of apes and thats the only way he could knock them all down at once) and comes to the signal. now the apes see the chimp, and think's it's their god, cause supposively, thats the chimp that saved them, and whent looking for the guy.

in all the repro of the story, the main idea was that he humans on the planet thought the guy that came looking for the chimp was an alien, but he was just the same as them, and that the chimp's thought that they found more technology before he did, but it was the other way around..

P.S. Its A good movie, and pay attention when the guy goes into the ape city, cause, its funny, you'll see like a whole bunch of monkeys smoking a huge bong (the film maker must of been a huge pot head. :lol



posted on May, 7 2004 @ 12:11 PM
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Sup urybody! I'm back...anyhow...here's the deal to answer NothingMakesSense...I honestly can't bring myself to agree with the "1st Gen" theory. I tend to lead more toward I.D. (intelligent design). Supposing there was a form of I.D. at work in the beginnings of mankind there obviously wouldn't be a "1st Gen". If I had to sit and ask myself though how a 1st Generation civilization could have offed itself I would say...hmm...I would definitely have to agree with you that it would have to take weapons of great power. I won't really speculate on what types though. I also apologize for not shaking my ass before dragging in the whiners. That's my fault. It seems...everybody on ATS can speculate, theorize, preach, expound, out and out lie or throw down with opinions, EXCEPT FOR ME. Seems me doing so is creating this bizarre phenomenon called,"PANTIESUPCRACKS".

Anyhow...I found your idea interesting I just feel there would be far more proof in the sedimentary levels...even if it was simply chunks of concrete and steal. This of course does not mean I'm right. It just I'm more of a stat quo man myself.



posted on May, 7 2004 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by NothingMakesSense
i have speculated on many things most of my life without any ill effects. in the tradition of ATS, do you have any evidence of this?

You'll have to forgive my abrasive manners...what I meant to stress was "can" meaning can or can't. Meaning, it's a great possibility. We see speculation turn to obsession and worse all the time in the world from religious nuts who speculate on the Bible and eventually make the junp into killing or the poor followers of the Hale Bop Cult...speculation when not applied correctly and combined with skeptical thinking can lead to many many problems.

Take for instance some of the people on this boards speculation that I am some sort of "government agent of disinformation"...for some it is eating at them and they've gone past speculating to following me from post to post flaming me. It's become an obsession for them to follow and "disprove" me. I've even received an "unstable" email from some anonymous twit on this board threatening to tell people all about my "real nature".


Speculation CAN possibly lead to obsession and obsession can lead to instability. Taking a casual walk through any Mental hospital would prove this out...ask any porn addict or online gaming junky. Sorry if you felt I was calling you unstable or obsessed. Not my intention.



posted on May, 7 2004 @ 12:38 PM
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Welcome back Preest.


I tend to lead more toward I.D. (intelligent design).

see here's my problem with all (including mine) creation theories: we simply don't have enough evidence about prehistorical times to make any conclusive arguments or "absolutely true" statements. So an ID theory is just as valid as my 1st/2nd gen theory.

Personally, i don't see how eveolving the amount of intelligence that we have was a huge evolutionary advantage to our ansestors. big heads which are difficult to give birth to, and long development times forced many complex social changes and the formation of lifelong bonds between mates. in the short run, this was a hinderance.

so i can see a case being made for a ID theory in our evolution.



Supposing there was a form of I.D. at work in the beginnings of mankind there obviously wouldn't be a "1st Gen".

correct.


I would definitely have to agree with you that it would have to take weapons of great power. I won't really speculate on what types though

what we have never experienced is hard to imagine. But maybe it wasn't a weapon at all in the traditional sense. Maybe they became so advanced that they develped materials that decay very quickly if they don't recieve a periodic stimuli. That would be the ultimate material(s)--as soon as it isn't needed it decays. Biodegradable but only when you want it to be. That would explain the lack of evidence of a first gen. But there would still be SOME evidence of more traditonal materials. I came up with this right now while i'm typing so don't take it too seriously...



It just I'm more of a stat quo man myself

me too. i don't accept anything easily, but i like to come up with possibilities... That is what my theory is about-just ideas.



also apologize for not shaking my (c) before dragging in the whiners

that's allright, i think he's gone now. it's impossible to please everyone....



posted on May, 7 2004 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by NothingMakesSense
see here's my problem with all (including mine) creation theories: we simply don't have enough evidence about prehistorical times to make any conclusive arguments or "absolutely true" statements. So an ID theory is just as valid as my 1st/2nd gen theory.
I agree that there isn't enough evidence regarding our origins to really offer anything solid but I do believe the I.D. or sometimes what I like to call E.T.D. may be a bit more practical. I sometimes refer to I.D. as E.T.D. because a change in our evolution may have been instigated by nothing more than a meteor, which essentially is of extraterrestrial nature. There's many theories and ideas and some I feel HAVE TO BE more valid then others...obviously intelligent men shouldn't be expected to believe we were hatched from a giant turtles egg and so on and so forth. People tend to misunderstand some of my critical thinking and many choose to simply call it "debunking" and dismiss me but I try to keep an open mind about everything I read unless it's nothing more than some fantastic story created by some person with an intense desire to "be right about something" and who wants to be "part of something bigger". Those theories tend to range from genetic altering primates to alien rape. I still believe Occams Razor is an important thing for a UFO believer to use.



posted on May, 7 2004 @ 02:15 PM
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I have another thought about this... maybe its like "the Matrix theory" off of the matrix reloaded, where neo finds out from the construct that there were several different matrix's and several different zion's and ect.. maybe that we are like human generation like 5 or maybe a zillion, and we just cant find proof of it all, cause its either really deeply buried, or so dissinigrated, we cant find traces of the other civilizations at all. maybe (i know, its getting off the subject, but its still on it tho..) the appocalypse is when "they" destroy all the technology that we have accomplished over the years, like a little kid stomping out an ant hill. maybe one day we will find out what really happened way back when, when "they" decided to make contact with us.



posted on May, 7 2004 @ 02:47 PM
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Yes, well, alot of what might have been evidence for intelligent design theories were in ancient "sacred" texts that have been burned up by those who were in power, so that the masses stay uninformed about the truth about our existance.

I don't know exactly how we were created because of the lack of the evidence, but I don't beleive that we evolved from apes.

The Matrix which you speak of, I beleive is actually true. For me this reality is a matrix, or a plane of consciousness. The astral plane is another plane of consciousness. We exist in several planes of consciousness. Our density and the rate of our vibrations determine which plane of consciousness we are able to be aware of.

The Mayans were said to have ascended into a higher plane of consciousness than this one.

I lean more towards Intelligent Design (or perhaps a design from the Universal Source or the Universal Intelligence). There are said to be other humanoids in the universe other than the ones here on Earth. One of them are named the "Pleidians" (sp?).

Some say we have been kept in a vibratory prison, where we are kept bound in this plane of consciousness by technology designed by a force which I beleive to originiate in the secret societies which manipulate our world leaders and governments. The forces may even use magick to fullfill these needs to keep us bound in this plane of consciousness.

Agent, WE WILL find out the truth one day, and that day I beleive is coming very soon. With all the information coming in about the coming disasters, I beleive it will knock down those in power and those secret societies from messing with us and corrupting us, so that those who survive the coming events will be able to rebuild civilization from scratch the way we want to without influence from secret societies or aliens, (if they are also manipulating, and influencing us).

It will be a time for us to recover and build society and civilization with a fresh start, when our mind's have changed greatly, and will have transcended material desires.

This year will be a great year indeed.

[Edited on 7-5-2004 by The Quiet Storm]



posted on May, 7 2004 @ 03:02 PM
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Well I believe we could be a product of aliens. I am not sure if we have any relation towards them. Maybe one day we will become so smart that we ourselves will be more powerful then the aliens depicted in movies or interviews of witnesses




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