All Crop Circles are Man-Made!

Originally posted by grapesofraft
Well at least your inching your way to the truth. It is more likely that the humans from Ford made all the crop circles than it is that aliens did it.

Well at least you are now inching your way to a logically defensible position. It is more likely that humans make crop circles than aliens.
I would agree with that!

But that is an almost infinite stretch to the proposition that you (or anyone else posting on ATS) can prove that all crop circles are proven to be made by humans because you (or they) read someplace that someone was charged with making a crop circle. I mean a lot of things are written on ATS, and I am very sceptical about many things I read here as I am about things I read elsewhere on the Internet. So even if it was true that someone was charged and proven in a court of law of committing a crime, that does not prove it. Otherwise, you would never have convictions overturned.

Anyways, as I previously stated, it is a logical fallacy to use a single case or a couple of cases to prove a generalization. You cannot prove that all people have blue eyes because some people have blue eyes.

reply to post by bluestreak53


Wow you just dont get it. I can at least say some people have blue eyes because I can prove that to be fact. I could also say it is more likely that crop circles are created only by people with blue eyes because at least I have proof that people with blue eyes actually exist on the planet Earth.

Originally posted by hermantinkly
Guys, I got some news for you. Yes, a large portion of the crop circles are indeed man-made. But just because they're man-made does not mean there is no ET influence. I happen to be priviledged to know that the ETs are using the mind as the tool. Much the same way a channeler tunes into a source and downloads information to present to an audience; crop circle artists' minds are also being downloaded with information on certain designs to make. Afterwards the UFOs usually modify or "fix" the designs if they are not made correctly in the fields.

You don't have to believe this but I guarantee you this is the case. My brother used to be an NSA operative during the Clinton administration and even admitted this to me back in 1993 but back then I wasn't interested in the subject and didn't make much of it. It wasn't until recently that I said, wow, this is significant!

ht

Cool!
What else did your brother tell you?
Did he talk about the Roswell crash?
Disclosure procedure appears to be start with Roswell and then go
from there.
President Carter told people that he has seen the hangers and
that they should keep believing what they believe.
The CIA probably drove him out to S4 where Bob Lazar worked.

Originally posted by hermantinkly
WHo is Richard McNamara?

[edit on 9-7-2009 by hermantinkly]

Hey!
What's with the edit?
You took away all the good info!

Guys, I got some news for you. Yes, a large portion of the crop circles are indeed man-made. But just because they're man-made does not mean there is no ET influence. I happen to be priviledged to know that the ETs are using the mind as the tool. Much the same way a channeler tunes into a source and downloads information to present to an audience; crop circle artists' minds are also being downloaded with information on certain designs to make. Afterwards the UFOs usually modify or "fix" the designs if they are not made correctly in the fields.

You don't have to believe this but I guarantee you this is the case. My brother used to be an NSA operative during the Clinton administration and even admitted this to me back in 1993 but back then I wasn't interested in the subject and didn't make much of it. It wasn't until recently that I said, wow, this is significant!

ht

Originally posted by hermantinkly
Guys, I got some news for you. Yes, a large portion of the crop circles are indeed man-made. But just because they're man-made does not mean there is no ET influence. I happen to be priviledged to know that the ETs are using the mind as the tool. Much the same way a channeler tunes into a source and downloads information to present to an audience; crop circle artists' minds are also being downloaded with information on certain designs to make. Afterwards the UFOs usually modify or "fix" the designs if they are not made correctly in the fields.
ht

Hey. I don't know if any of that is true, but it sure is interesting. But to me I can't understand why if the crop circle designs are made by aliens, why do they look so much like something that people would come up with?

Still, I do like the idea in one way. It would explain two things:
1) Why there are not more big boo boos in crop circle designs. Especially when they are made by a bunch of englishmen stumbling around in the darkness. (Because, as you suggest in your theory that aliens "fix" the boo boos).
2) Assuming that all (or most) of the crop circles are made by humans, and these are being made in the same fields year after year, why is it that you don't have a lot of these people being "caught in the act". Perhaps they are being made by humans (maybe some english guys who are tall with blond hair and white "hoodies"). But the aliens use their mind control to put all the local farmers to sleep - same for the cops and the rest of the public who never seem to catch these guys. (Do they use flashlights to see in the dark?)

Of course, this being ATS, I am waiting for someone to say that it is NSA that is using mind control to get the circle makers to go out and create the circles.

Anyways, that is an interesting idea there, even if it can't be proven.

Originally posted by bluestreak53

Originally posted by dragonridr
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There is a major difference between inference and proof.
I am not making any statement that any particular crop circles are made by anyone or anything. I am just pointing out obvious logical fallacies.

You cannot "prove the non-existence of aliens" because you have no proof that they exist - just like you cannot prove that aliens are not coming to earth because you have never seen one.

I hope if you read through your post you will realize it is mostly just gibberish so it is difficult to ascertain whether you are really making any point at all.

I drive a Ford truck, therefore all trucks are made by Ford. So that must means Ford made all the crop circles too!

Now i see the problem you don't understand logic at all. Lets examine this a little until you can prove something exists it doesn't at that point it is nothing more than a fantasy. I cant prove superman man doesn't exist but its highly unlikely.So in order to prove that aliens created crop circles you have to prove aliens exist. I could argue that crop circles are made by gnomes and there trying to send us a message. This is just as logical as the assumption there made by aliens neither of these can be backed up with any proof.

The only thing that we can prove is crop circles have been made by man they will continue to have people that make them and as such we can solidly state until there is proof of something else this is the only logical answer.

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LMAO, Unsolved Mysteries. You got to take this act on tour. You would have people rolling in the aisles.

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It has been shown that many of the farmers are aware of what is going on and some of them even get paid by the crop circle makers for the damage to their crops, plus a little profit.

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That is the most freaking sense anyone on this entire thread has made. Thanks!

Originally posted by grapesofraft
reply to Wow you just dont get it. I can at least say some people have blue eyes because I can prove that to be fact. I could also say it is more likely that crop circles are created only by people with blue eyes because at least I have proof that people with blue eyes actually exist on the planet Earth.

Yes, you could say that. But because you could say that, it wouldn't "prove it". It could be that you are colour blind as an example. So your observations would be in error and thus your conclusions wrong, even for those people you "proved" to have blue eyes. Because in reality, their eyes are green!

(Okay, I don't know if you are colour blind, but supposing you were)