All Crop Circles are Man-Made!

reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow

Sad reflection on the audience ATS has ATM.

Yes I agree this place is filling up with idiots that will believe anything just because they see it in a youtube video or because some con artist tells them it is true right before he grabs 20 bucks out of their hand for the next book, video, or seminar.

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reply to post by grapesofraft


and petty children...

Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
reply to post by grapesofraft

 

and petty children...

Oh yes and the petty children. See I think we are in agreement on this one.

Welll I guess children arent all that petty, even my 7 and 10 year old would know not to believe in Alien life on the moon because of a youtube video of rocks and craters.

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reply to post by grapesofraft


PROVE your BS thread post



"ALL Crop circles are man made".



PROVE IT!

reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow


I already have.
1. Man exists, as you and I are humans.
2. Man is capable of producing ALL of the crop circles
3. Man has admitted to doing it and some have even been convicted.
4. You cant prove aliens visit the earth, but I can prove man lives hear.
5. So therefore it could only be man who is behind it, because Man is the only creature with the ability and mental capacity on Earth to create them.

COMMON SENSE!

Originally posted by grapesofraft
reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow

 

I already have.
1. Man exists, as you and I are humans.
2. Man is capable of producing ALL of the crop circles
3. Man has admitted to doing it and some have even been convicted.
4. You cant prove aliens visit the earth, but I can prove man lives hear.
5. So therefore it could only be man who is behind it, because Man is the only creature with the ability and mental capacity on Earth to create them.

COMMON SENSE!

I agree that it is highly likely that most or all crop circles are created by humans, but your "logic summary" is illogical. How about this:

1. God exists, as the bible tells me so.
2. God is capable of producing ALL of the crop circles.
3. God has admitted to me he has been doing this to "test the faith" of his followers.
4. You can't prove that any person has ever produced a single crop circle.
5. So therefore God is proven to be the creator of all crop circles as no one has been definitively linked to the production of a single circle.

Yeah, that works too!
All crop circle MUST be produced by god!

reply to post by bluestreak53

I agree that it is highly likely that most or all crop circles are created by humans, but your "logic summary" is illogical. How about this:

1. God exists, as the bible tells me so.
2. God is capable of producing ALL of the crop circles.
3. God has admitted to me he has been doing this to "test the faith" of his followers.
4. You can't prove that any person has ever produced a single crop circle.
5. So therefore God is proven to be the creator of all crop circles as no one has been definitively linked to the production of a single circle.

Yeah, that works too!
All crop circle MUST be produced by god!

No your logic is just as ridiculous as those that believe Aliens did it.
1. Thinking God exists just because the Bible says so is no different than believing in Aliens because a youtube video says so.
2. I guess if the Christian God exists as they say he does he would be capable of creating crop circles.
3 God has never admitted to any such thing, except in someones imagination.
4. I CAN PROVE THAT PEOPLE HAVE CREATED A CROP CIRCLE. People have admitted to it. Some have even been arrested and convicted of it.
5. So therefore your logic is just as messed up as the people that attribute it to Aliens. There is no more proof of Aliens than their is proof of God, which is ZERO PROOF.

Originally posted by grapesofraft
reply to post by bluestreak53

 

No your logic is just as ridiculous as those that believe Aliens did it.
1. Thinking God exists just because the Bible says so is no different than believing in Aliens because a youtube video says so.
2. I guess if the Christian God exists as they say he does he would be capable of creating crop circles.
3 God has never admitted to any such thing, except in someones imagination.
4. I CAN PROVE THAT PEOPLE HAVE CREATED A CROP CIRCLE. People have admitted to it. Some have even been arrested and convicted of it.
5. So therefore your logic is just as messed up as the people that attribute it to Aliens. There is no more proof of Aliens than their is proof of God, which is ZERO PROOF.

My point 1 is that many people hold such beliefs, and sorry to say, but you really can't prove them wrong because their belief is based not on logic but on faith.
My point 3 is that you have no way of knowing what other people's personal experiences are unless you are an all seeing and all knowing god, which I have no reason to believe you are.
Your extrapolation of a single case to all cases is a classic case of anti-logic.

As an example, because one person with a first name of "John" has a last name of "Smith" does not suggest that all people with a first name of "John" will have a last name of "Smith".

Comprendo???

reply to post by bluestreak53


I do comprehend, but since there is no proof that aliens even visit Earth or that even if they did that they create crop circles why attribute ANY crop circles to them?

Like you said earlier, you might as well attribute them to God as that would be just as illogical.

Really you could even say Bigfoot, or the Easter Bunny, or Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy did it, and it would be equally valid to saying Aliens did it.

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reply to post by bluestreak53


You have no reason Must someone prove every car was made by man? You know there could be cars out there that was made by aliens there fore that cant be proved. Since there is no proof crop circles are made by aliens or anything else for that matter other than man you are defying logic. If it can be shown humans can and do make them then by any form of reason mystery solved.

Any belief to the contrary is just a fantasy.I can show you instances of man made crop circles that have been proved to be so can you point out 1 crop circle proved to be made by an alien?

Originally posted by grapesofraft
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

John Glenn took a photo of his "escorts" when he orbited the Earth.
There were 2 of them. Looked like scout class Top Hats to me.
They were both glowing white.
The Grays have been here all along.
There are other races with underground bases around the world.
The Grays have a base on the southwest end of Puerto Rico.
They fenced it all off which ended further investigation.

Really? Would you like to post these photos that John Glenn took>

How do you know there are Grays all over the world, a base in Puerto Rico, and that they have been here all along, did one sit down with you and tell you?

So humans are incapable now of climbing a fence or knocking it down and there are aliens there and nobody tried to get in and take a look. Really?

They have those scary signs on the fence.
You know "Keep Out" "Use of deadly force is authorized"
The fenced off area is actually just a small lake.
Residents have seen spacecraft come out of the lake and fly off.
They took a pic of 1 of them. It looked like an upside down pie pan.
aka...a Top Hat.
I saw it first on an episode of Unsolved Mysteries.
I did a simple Google search....just click image
John Glenn UFO Pics.

There are some HUGE cigar shaped UFOs flying around.
Officially they are called "beam ships"
They are about 3,000 feet long and apparently have the
ability to "fold" space. Time = Zero
By shutting time off they can create a portal or door and then
just fly through it.
They don't break the laws of physics. They just find a way around them.



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reply to post by Eurisko2012


I love you, because you crack me up. Seriously. You have to be pulling my leg.

So aliens put up a fence and went down to Home Depot and bought signs that say Keep OUT and Use of Deadly Force. WTF?

So our government is afraid to cross the sign and get to the bottom of it because they put up a sign?

If there was 3000 feet craft I am sure it would be simultaneously witnessed by thousands of people that is more than a half mile long. It would block out the sun for a good portion of people that were under it.

reply to post by Eurisko2012


And how do you know any of this was it in one of there technical manuals for god sakes even if it is an alien ship you would have no idea of its purpose. My god is anyone out there still sane? And john glen never took any photos of any alien ships the closest you will be able to find is where he discusses what he called fire flies. At the time he wasn't sure what they were another astronaut confirmed where and how they were created ill leave it to you to look it up. This may teach people to look into things before they believe everything they read on crack pot websites.

reply to post by dragonridr


Great post and a star for you. I swear the stuff some people will believe. Its enough to make a man become a con-artist just to rip off fools.

Originally posted by grapesofraft
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

I love you, because you crack me up. Seriously. You have to be pulling my leg.

So aliens put up a fence and went down to Home Depot and bought signs that say Keep OUT and Use of Deadly Force. WTF?

So our government is afraid to cross the sign and get to the bottom of it because they put up a sign?

If there was 3000 feet craft I am sure it would be simultaneously witnessed by thousands of people that is more than a half mile long. It would block out the sun for a good portion of people that were under it.

No man.
The U.S. has influence over the Puerto Rico government.
We asked them to fence it off and just protect the underground base/lake.
I guess we didn't want people scuba diving down to the bottom.
We have an alliance with Grays.
They have helped us more than you know.

As far as the beam ships, they have a cloaking system that bends
the light around them. They are seen only when they want to be seen.
It may interest you to know that a beam ship was seen over
London England back around 1835. Millions of people saw it.
It probably inspired the Germans to build those crazy Zepplins
that were filled with hydrogen.

Originally posted by dragonridr
reply to post by bluestreak53

 

You have no reason Must someone prove every car was made by man? You know there could be cars out there that was made by aliens there fore that cant be proved. Since there is no proof crop circles are made by aliens or anything else for that matter other than man you are defying logic. If it can be shown humans can and do make them then by any form of reason mystery solved.

Any belief to the contrary is just a fantasy.I can show you instances of man made crop circles that have been proved to be so can you point out 1 crop circle proved to be made by an alien?

There is a major difference between inference and proof.
I am not making any statement that any particular crop circles are made by anyone or anything. I am just pointing out obvious logical fallacies.

You cannot "prove the non-existence of aliens" because you have no proof that they exist - just like you cannot prove that aliens are not coming to earth because you have never seen one.

I hope if you read through your post you will realize it is mostly just gibberish so it is difficult to ascertain whether you are really making any point at all.

I drive a Ford truck, therefore all trucks are made by Ford. So that must means Ford made all the crop circles too!

reply to post by bluestreak53

I drive a Ford truck, therefore all trucks are made by Ford. So that must means Ford made all the crop circles too!

Well at least your inching your way to the truth. It is more likely that the humans from Ford made all the crop circles than it is that aliens did it.

reply to post by Eurisko2012


I want to believe you, but do you have any proof of this or did you just get it implanted into your mind during your last deep and hard probing session.

Originally posted by grapesofraft
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

I want to believe you, but do you have any proof of this or did you just get it implanted into your mind during your last deep and hard probing session.

I was a big Unsolved Mysteries fan.
They had episodes about everything including UFOs.
What's the big deal?
It's just technology.
It will all be declassified in a few years.
To be honest, I could be standing in a wheat field here in the USA
using a couple of "borrowed"Gray remote controlled probes and
controlling them with an iMac in the year 2018.
My very first crop circle will spell out "I Told You So."

WHo is Richard McNamara?

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