From what I've gathered in this thread (and it HAS been an education!
), You folks have a fair proportion of "brawlers" over there, but not a
lot of folks that fight for keeps. It sounds like the number of folks that DO fight for keeps, and violently so, is increasing, but perhaps not (yet)
to a nationwide level.
Is that a fair assessment?
Now, under normal circumstances (i.e. against drunken brawlers) TKD and the like do fairly well. That would be all you NEED under such circumstances.
I can see an aversion to firearms in that state. I might not COMPLETELY understand it, because firearms also have a sporting aspect (think contest of
skills at hitting tiny targets far off), that I personally enjoy, but not all would. So I can understand to a degree.
Here, we have a few drunken brawlers, who are pretty easily wrapped up. We also have, in larger and growing numbers, a "gangsta" culture. These kids
will kill over a pair of sneakers or a sideways glance. They have no morals, feel no remorse, and have a thoroughly "twisted" sense of honor,
loyalty to none but their own group. They're dangerous, but only in a gutter-snipe, sneaky kind of way. They generally avoid points of actual
"strength", since they are predatory in nature. Personally, I think it's kind of cute, the way they TRY to give one a "hard-eyed stare" to show
you who's the boss, and fail miserably when against someone who's confident.
But then I'm a bit twisted myself. You may have gathered that.
Against such opponents, TKD and the like are of little use here. They'll just stand off in the shadows, and pick you off without actually taking a
chance on getting their hair mussed. That's why firearms are a good Idea here. Payment in kind, just as fisticuffs are payment in kind to the odd
Thank God that here, that sort of activity is mostly confined to the urban areas. But if it's growing there, you probably need to get a handle on it
before it gets out of control. If that's still possible and it hasn't already.
To make a long story short, I believe what we have here is, more than a clash of values, a failure to comprehend cultural differences which we assume
to be close, because of a common language. Were you Brits to have been raised in this culture, you might see things differently. Likewise with us and
your culture. I think it's more a matter of what we're up against than it is a matter of who's "right" or "wrong". We each deal with our own
problems the best we can.
The problems of violence are real, and not a matter for thrashing and bashing. They're a matter for debate and solution.