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Originally posted by Bunken Drum
Wheyhey! I made you a foe. It's the "respected foe" bit. There's a lot on here who seem to mindlessly repeat barely understood political theories without showing the least understanding necessary to even relate such ideas to their own lives. I just can't respect that.
I'm well prepared to believe that drug funded gangs can afford to do business with international arms traders. But what has that got to do with ordinary Americans? Those people could buy you 5x over & call it operating costs. They're not going to come round your house on the rob: you haven't got anything worth the effort. Those AKs & who knows what else, are to fight police, border patrol, the Mexican Army & each other. You want to stop that? Legalise drugs.
You & I both know that any semi-auto weapon can have its gas return system modified for full-auto fire, even a pistol; ok it's moving parts wouldn't last long, but that's not so with a gun designed for such use but modified for single shot to be legally bought in the USA (& that's not google-knowledge). Anyway, are you really saying that most guns used in US crime were not made in & filled with ammo from the USA? I'll need credible (ie non-NRA) stats on that.
Originally posted by jean59
reply to post by nenothtu
A very macho, threatening speech.. well done.
Now you have stroked your ego and shown your muscles, you should
understand that was British humor!!
Relax and please don't shoot us!!...Joking.
I think it does, but slightly differently.
What's happening over there, what's this violence I hear about you're running into there, and does it compare in any way to our situation here?
Originally posted by Majestic23
Thanks for that insight Neno. I guess I dont like the talking about self defence and such as it became something of a preoccupation for me and brought out a pretty negative kind of character, you know, like I wasnt being the real me.
I see it was me now that I was preoccupied in my mind and saw it as a violent place, puts you on edge. Iam glad to have grown out of that stage now though and feel a lot more at ease. But I get you, self defence is important. Wheter guns laws have a posative or negative effect is a differant matter in my opinion. I mean, when it comes down to it, the people who have it in themselves to defend themselves will no matter what the cirumstances may be.
Originally posted by Bunken Drum
Please explain to me how the govt of the USA or Russia was/is not tyranny? Who was in charge after the yelling stopped? The rich/well connected or did I miss ordinary people bypassing the usual oligarchy we know today as TPTB?
If guns made revolution easier, why didn't we see it in 1930s America? Or the 60s? People were literally sobbing their hearts out when JFK was killed, there was a massively unpopular war & enormous social change; perfect conditions... Oh, but hang on, there was a neighbourhood that might have guns that folks wouldn't be drawn together with & no amount of politeness could assuage the fear of, eh?
Personally, although I disregard his religious standpoint, given the pressure cooker he worked in, I find Dr. King's example inspiring.
(PS it's the weekend, I'm drunk again so please excuse the poor performance)
Originally posted by dooper
I served in combat with men from every corner of the country. and in the interest of self-preservation, gravitated toward the guys from Kentucky, Virginia, Georgia, Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, and West By-God. There were some fine fighting men from other states, but these guys you could rely on when it became do or die.
Originally posted by AmagnonYeah, might is right! Woohoo! That's justice seen?
Every single person should have the right to bear arms - that justice is enacted by force should not even be up for debate, as it is self evident truth. Without the means to exert meaningful force - then justice cannot exist.
Er... hang on, didn't we have to cut a king's head off to get away from that mentality... like f**king ages ago?
Originally posted by dooper reply to post by noangelsExcuse me Mods, but this is ridiculous & in the spirit of trying to secure debate rather than mass debate, I'm going to ridicule it.
And just how many knife attacks/hammer attacks have you defended yourself against? Most folks know that if two parties have a knife, likely, they'll kill each other. So what is your defense secret that enables you to defend against a knife attack? You are correct in one aspect, a pussy can pick up a gun. But that same pussy must be able to hit what he's shooting at. I learned a long time ago that one of the most uncomfortable conditions is to suddenly find yourself in a hatchet fight, and you're the only one without a hatchet. So I legally conceal a 1911 .45 Kimber Ultra CDPII with Crimson Trace laser grips, and it cost more than many people earn in two or three weeks. Not a throwaway, and not a cheap Saturday nite Special. You run if you want. I don't have the patience anymore.
Ladies of ATS? Your attention please... I give you dooper!
He's telling us he's a real man with a big, expensive gun & he knows how to use it!
Anyone care to speculate what isn't so great?
A second phase of a campaign aimed at raising awareness of the dangers of airguns has been launched by the Scottish Government.
Police suggested this is when airgun incidents are most likely to occur.
Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill said: "Air guns are not toys, but weapons that can kill and maim. There have been tragedies that have caused pain and injury to children and animals. That's why we believe that action must be taken.
Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by noangels
And just how many knife attacks/hammer attacks have you defended yourself against?
Most folks know that if two parties have a knife, likely, they'll kill each other.
So what is your defense secret that enables you to defend against a knife attack?
You are correct in one aspect, a pussy can pick up a gun. But that same pussy must be able to hit what he's shooting at.
I learned a long time ago that one of the most uncomfortable conditions is to suddenly find yourself in a hatchet fight, and you're the only one without a hatchet.
So I legally conceal a 1911 .45 Kimber Ultra CDPII with Crimson Trace laser grips, and it cost more than many people earn in two or three weeks. Not a throwaway, and not a cheap Saturday nite Special.
You run if you want.
I don't have the patience anymore.