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Topic started on 4-7-2009 @ 10:03 AM by RedGolem
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Latest on Swine Flu that I found.
Yesterday there were more than 7,400 confirmed cases of swine flu in the UK. If the number of cases continues to grow at the current pace, the UK
could have 100,000 new cases every day by the end of August.
Under the Government's pandemic action plan, there are three levels of alert for a serious flu outbreak. Earlier this week the Health Secretary
announced the UK would now enter the third, most serious, phase.
sorce
Is defently not making it sound good. Combine that with the Flu thrives in cool environments, as the season moves into the winter months things could
get worse.
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 10:22 AM by Haydn_17
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How long untill 40 turns into 400 and then 400 into 4000 and so on.
People will be begging for the vaccine.
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 10:24 AM by Haydn_17
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Also notice at the questtion and answer bit, it says "If i contract swine flu and recover am i immune"
It goes on to say IT WILL MUTATE
Strange choice of words.
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 10:44 AM by RedGolem
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Haydn
First of all, all viresess mutate. That is why there is a different vaccine every year for the flu.
After having the desise there is often some antibodies still floating around in your system, not necessarily immune but a good way not to get it
again.
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 10:55 AM by kindred
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I personally grow tired of the fear mongering. They said exactly the same thing about bird flu and it never happened. As far as I'm concerned they
can shove their flu vaccine where the sun don't shine. I won't be taking it in any shape or form. High dosages of vitaminc C & sea salt have always
worked for me.
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 11:23 AM by ChemBreather
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Here is a thread that say other wise ..
Hundred Thousands a day !!!
And I just learned that Norway now have ordered 9.4 million doses, and ofcourse , two for each citizen..

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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 12:15 PM by secretagent woooman
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Yep, and mad cow disease, and skin cancer, and aids, and a few other diseases we could name.
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 01:07 PM by ZeroKnowledge
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Just to put thing into proportions - 40 deaths a day from 100000 infected a day gives actually 0.4 percent lethality. Meaning that one from more then
two hundred people who would be infected would die from it.
Population of UK - 60000000 people. If everyone would be infected (and it is certainly not going to be so) 240000 would be dead in the UK alone. This
is a lot of people. According to gruesome 2007 lethality statistics i dug up,in a worst possible case it would be leading cause of death , slightly
more then deaths from heart/vasculary problems. And since not all would be infected - it would in reality probably be well in the second/third place.
Now this actually goes well with what i said from the beginning of this pandemics - it is going to be a serious problem, but there is absolutly no
reason to panic. People must take normal precautions, each according to what he thinks (or preferably what his doc would advise him) is right. Not run
for the hills screaming.
And as for mass vaccine - if it will really drop the numbers of dead, there is some justification. However i personally would not get it unless forced
by work place. So far never got flu vaccine.
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 01:12 PM by RedGolem
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I got to agree that there is a certen amount of fear mongering going on. But you should also keep in mind that it can also be very dangerous. The
Spanish flu, as I recall was a strain of the bird flu, did kill about 250,000,000. The swine flu has been here before but did not kill anything near
that number, and from what I have heard, has not killed any where near what the common flu has this year. But that does not mean that it can not
still be a dangerous flu season.
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 01:36 PM by Jubjub
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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
Just to put thing into proportions - 40 deaths a day from 100000 infected a day gives actually 0.4 percent lethality. Meaning that one from more then
two hundred people who would be infected would die from it.
Population of UK - 60000000 people. If everyone would be infected (and it is certainly not going to be so) 240000 would be dead in the UK
alone.
Start up your calculator one more time - It's 0,04 percent and 24.000 people
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 02:02 PM by ZeroKnowledge
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reply to post by Jubjub
Yup, you are correct. I actually did not use calculator, "counting" on my own brain power that clearly failed me. 24000 deaths per year from a flu
in worst possible scenario - is actually very very low. Certainly not explaining mass vaccination.
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reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 12:37 AM by loqeth
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Not to sound like a swine flu supporter, but the one difference in this non-seasonal flu vs regular flu is that it drops teenagers and kids more than
the old or very very young.
Problem with that is our future workers are going to be dead and just imagine what the parents will be like after their child dies of swine flu. It is
going to cause disruptions at work and probably scar a lot of the parents for the rest of their lives.
Even with that said, I won't be getting the vaccine. And don't forget that seasonal flu will still pop out in winter time to claim it's fair share
of the old and young, and possibly do some inter-breeding with swine flu.
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