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Originally posted by Viking04
There is no indication that BHO is, or has ever been a Freemason of any stripe. This has been beaten to death in the SS forum
Mmm.. yes we do .. then there is also Prince Hall Masonry, which is recognized by most Grand Lodges as Regular Masonry (not surprisingly those that do not recognize Prince Hall Masonry are in the South)
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Originally posted by Viking04
There is no indication that BHO is, or has ever been a Freemason of any stripe. This has been beaten to death in the SS forum
Poor old Obama couldn't be a mason even if he wanted to! Obama is black and the racist masons don't let black people join their cult.
Main Entry:
fra·ter·ni·ty Listen to the pronunciation of fraternity
Pronunciation:
\frə-ˈtər-nə-tē\
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s):
plural fra·ter·ni·ties
Date:
14th century
1: a group of people associated or formally organized for a common purpose, interest, or pleasure: as a: a fraternal order b: guild 1 c: a men's student organization formed chiefly for social purposes having secret rites and a name consisting of Greek letters d: a student organization for scholastic, professional, or extracurricular activities 2: the quality or state of being brothers : brotherliness3: persons of the same class, profession, character, or tastes
I believe they have a thing against Jesus. My research shows me that Jesus seems to purposely left out of rituals, writings.
Can a white person join the Prince Hall lodges?
You also say that freemasonry doesn't admit black people but how about asians or Indians for example? Would they be allowed to join?
This segregation came about due to the civil war!
Why is that apartheid can be shown to be morally wrong because it secluded black people yet lodges in civilised countries can somehow flaunt the race laws and still refuse admittance to black people? Doesn't the law apply to the masons?
This segregation came about due to the civil war!
No, it came about through slavery and the ideologies of racial superiority, however it was not until blacks were free could they try and join a lodge.. hence it being after the Civil War.
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
reply to post by Rockpuck
So, lets put this simply. Can a black guy join the very lodge, an ordinary lodge not a prince hall lodge, which you frequent?
A simple one word answer will suffice. . .
Originally posted by getreadyalready
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
reply to post by Rockpuck
So, lets put this simply. Can a black guy join the very lodge, an ordinary lodge not a prince hall lodge, which you frequent?
A simple one word answer will suffice. . .
Yes. As long as he meets all the same requirements, believes in 1 all powerful being, passes his background check, and pays his dues!
Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
reply to post by Rockpuck
So, lets put this simply. Can a black guy join the very lodge, an ordinary lodge not a prince hall lodge, which you frequent?
A simple one word answer will suffice. . .
The notion of segregation comes from America's segregated past.. now it's simply tradition. I don't hear much complaining from either side that they want that changed.
Well being British I understand tradition but I can't believe that black freemasons are happy being treated, in a traditional sense, in the same way their ancestors were. Here in Liverpool they have mounted a plaque saying sorry for our cities part in the slave trade. Surely as time progresses things should (and have to the greater degree) get better so why does freemasonry continue, even if it is only to keep up tradition, to have a princes hall lodge? Why not just unite the lodges?