No remorse to Mrs Palin

I’m not going to go down the points on how much myself and many others disagree with Mrs Palin, I will however say I have no remorse towards her regarding her resignation and the media coverage. When you choose to become public servant, when you obligate yourself to running a campaign for the vice presidency, you should expect to have those highly critical of you from a day to day basis.

I remember when Clinton was first Lady in the Whitehouse and the insults she received from republicans, the core conservatives.... the comments during the time to which Newt was house speaker. I remember the insults regarding Kerry and his service to this nation. Like him or not the mans participation in Vietnam being mocked by the "support the troops" gang of 03' were disgusting, but he moved on. Heck even McCain himself, Dole received personal attacks. Did this stop them from running? Did the criticism, the personal insults from the public push them to leave? These individuals continued on and understood that in the world of politics, in the world of public campaigning you’re going to get personal attacks. If you’re going to run for higher office it is common sense to expect criticism, to know it gets dirty, to expect the personal insults. Its going to get dirty, you dont have to lower yourself to that level, but dont expect everybody to give you a bone. Doesn’t matter how you deal with it, its common sense to expect it once you take that responsibility for running public office.

The one thing I cannot get my head around Palin and her supporters... with all the talk regarding "strong leadership" "military leadership" these folks turn around and cry "sexism" the second the woman gets criticism. Sure, there are Obama supporters, Hillary supporters this way but I don’t recall them dumping "war hawk diplomacy" down every bodies throats, however Palin supporters seem to do this whenever they can. Now she’s resigning because she can’t handle the media? Because people are watching her ethically? Because folks are hurling insults? this woman? Mrs Hockey mom who stood against Russia across the sea?? and to think her supporters here expect her to run for office on the grounds of "strong leadership"... really now.

Well Mrs Palin you now have time to spend with your kids, important to any parent, however if this is another political stunt for 2012, or a "blame the media and critics" fest that made you resign a little over a year before you end your term as governor, your only further proving the critics right.

[edit on 4-7-2009 by Southern Guardian]

Originally posted by Southern Guardian
No remorse to Mrs Palin

Do you mean Govenor Palin?

I'm not sure if I'm following what you are saying -
no 'remorse to' Govenor Palin?

Remorse means that you are sorry for having done something.

Are you saying that you did something that you aren't sorry for in regards to Govenor Palin?


In reference to Govenor Palin .... I think she made a terrible mistake. She should have finished the term that she was elected to. If she has eyes on the White House not only should she have finished the term, but in 2010 she should have ran again and finished that term (if she were elected) as well.

Only then would she have enough experience to be able to say she's experienced enough to run for POTUS.

I know .. I know .. Obama had NO EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE and he got elected. But that was just plain stupidity on the part of Americans. Being a 'community organizer' doesn't make someone qualified to be POTUS and neither does being govenor for half an elected term.

The woman and her family were treated horribly by the media and I don't blame her for leaving office. People can only take so much and their families shouldn't have to be fodder for the media.

But......

If she is leaving office to prepare for a run for any national office, then I do have a problem. If she is going to leave, then leave. Don't leave in order to try for something more. And, if she tries for something more, then don't complain if the media goes after her and her family again.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Do you mean Govenor Palin?

She will be resigning. If you want to continue to call her governor... or president... whatever rows your boat, go forth and use your imagination.

I'm not sure if I'm following what you are saying -
no 'remorse to' Govenor Palin?

Remorse means that you are sorry for having done something.

Its apparent she wants us to feel sorry for her and her resignation, to be sorry, its apparent Palin supporters will be looking to the rest of us to somehow feel sorry that the big bad media and critics got to here, and that wont be happening.

Are you saying that you did something that you aren't sorry for in regards to Govenor Palin?

Why am I to feel sorry for her reasons behind her resignation? What was her intention then Flyers? Fill me in here because her speech certainly didnt cover anything.

In reference to Govenor Palin .... I think she made a terrible mistake. She should have finished the term that she was elected to. If she has eyes on the White House not only should she have finished the term, but in 2010 she should have ran again and finished that term (if she were elected) as well.

Yes this was a blunder. Sure shes wise enough to know howmuch of a hole she created into her chances for 2012.... although I may be wrong, maybe she doesnt see that. I hope she does for her sake.

Only then would she have enough experience to be able to say she's experienced enough to run for POTUS.

Hold on... whats this here? This is interesting... from Flyers fan herself folks.... she wasnt experienced enough back in the general elections... thanks for letting us know this FF... 9 months late but nevertheless.

Originally posted by skeptic1
The woman and her family were treated horribly by the media

As if she was the only one. Really now. Its so ironic to see the typical suspects and their personal insults towards Clinton and Obama now act as if Palin is the woman who has recieved criticism, insults from the public and the media.

and I don't blame her for leaving office.

...and yet you expected this woman to become your vice president? Rallied her around as the strong choice, strong leader, and yet you dont blame her for dropping out because people are critical? What criteria to base your choice of leadership on, because this certainly contradicts any criteria I tell ya.

If she is leaving office to prepare for a run for any national office, then I do have a problem. If she is going to leave, then leave. Don't leave in order to try for something more. And, if she tries for something more, then don't complain if the media goes after her and her family again.

well I seem to be striking some same lane with some ATSers here thats good.

[edit on 4-7-2009 by Southern Guardian]

Originally posted by Southern Guardian
The one thing I cannot get my head around Palin and her supporters... with all the talk regarding "strong leadership" "military leadership" these folks turn around and cry "sexism" the second the woman gets criticism. [edit on 4-7-2009 by Southern Guardian]

Kinda like you liberals do whenever your fearless leader is criticized eh? you call us racists.

funny how it works both ways right?

Originally posted by Southern Guardian
She will be resigning.

But she hasn't yet. So for now ... she's Govenor Palin.

Its apparent she wants us to feel sorry for her

I didn't get that at all. What I heard was this - she said she didn't want to be a lame duck govenor. (which is a pretty damn lame to say!!) She has higher ambitions and she's bailing on the people of Alaska who voted her in. I didn't see anything about us having to feel sorry for her. If anything it was the opposite ... she was putting on that she has too much to offer to finish the job she was hired to do.

from Flyers fan herself folks.... she wasnt experienced enough back in the general elections... thanks for letting us know this FF... 9 months late but nevertheless.

:shk: No smart-*** .... I said it back then as well.
My stand on Palin has not changed at all.
I have ALWAYS said that she's not ready. ALWAYS.

Originally posted by eightonefive
Kinda like you liberals do whenever your fearless leader is criticized

I never complained of criticism towards Obama in general, I didnt see him resign from running for president with all the "muslim" "terrorist" and "socialist" insults hurled at him. Dont see him resigning as president now.

My question is, had Palin actually been vice president now.... with the same media coverage as now... what would Mrs Palin be doing now mm?

you call us racists.

Where did this come from? Did you say something racist?

funny how it works both ways right?

What did you get word President Obama was resigning? stop the presses!

[edit on 4-7-2009 by Southern Guardian]

Originally posted by FlyersFan
I didn't get that at all. What I heard was this

What you heard Flyers was a weak attempt to cover up the real reasons. But you know, Im not really surprised what you think you heard.

This coming week will be interesting.

I knew you'd be awake this early Guardian

I have no idea the reasons behind Palin's resignation. The news hasn't really covered very much of it. I just saw a 10 second clip on FOX a little while ago, but no real meat to the story.

In no way do I ever say anything racist, I'm just getting used to that term being thrown around by liberal Obama supporters in defense of their "King" whenever a debate gets too heated, and they are left without a decent rebuttal.

I am not a supporter of Palin, and I think she would've made a terrible VP, and while I'm not familiar with her track record as Gov. of AL, I'm sure if there were any keen decisions made it was one of her "assistants" who made them. She doesn't come across as a very intelligent woman.

I just think she's cute.

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Obama? Obama? Don't you mean PRESIDENT Obama? (Caps for you, since you like them so well).

I personally don't blame her for resigning. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. She clearly can't.

I personally am tired of her and her whining.

You know what? If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. It's an old saying but it's true.

During the election Gov. Palin was shown for the ditz she really is. I hope to god we see the last of Caribou Barbie soon.

I agree with you Southern Guardian, public office invites criticism. If you can't take it move aside and let someone with a spinal cord step up.

$500,000 worth of personal legal bills for the Palins in their fight against attacks?

I'm sure she will take some speaking engagements, or a job in the private sector to raise some cash to pay off debts.

I think the most dangerous thing about Palin is that she can speak in public without a script or teleprompter.... The PTB do not like that. That is why the McCain camp turned on her... It is why they tried to keep her away from media interviews. She is too independent and simply will not be the puppet they need in public office of any kind.

Palin doesn't have a chance, if she does run again for any office in government the wolves will be out in full force to destroy her.

You all have completely missed what has really been going on here.

I think that she knows that Alaska is about to get nuked by North Korea and she just doesn't want it to happen on her watch.

OK, not really. I sure hope this kills any chance of her running for POTUS in 2012. I am sure that the turdblossoms of the world will somehow be able to spin quitting your job as a good thing, but I really hope that the people will see through it. I have my doubts though.

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Oh yes. I just thought I would clarify something for you since you seem to be having problems with the thread title.

I think the OP means he is not sorry she is stepping down. Simple, really.

Hope it makes sense for you now!
Peace,
liw

Interesting how something like this quickly turns into a left versus right thing. Just as TPTB want. Obama did this, McCain did that, Clinton sucked, Bush sucked...

I really have to agree with Walkswithfish on this. The reality is that there is no real choice for Americans anymore. The republicans and the democrats are pretty much the same. They argue and argue, but they both do the same thing when in office. Bush was criticized for everything he did in office and now, if you're honest and take the blinders off, Obama is simply Bush's third term. More of the same no matter who the puppet "in charge" is.

Whoever is truly in charge wants us to have this dumb bickering along party lines and they feed the negativity to each side. That keeps our eyes off of what is really happening. Governor Palin didn't want to play the game and was ridiculed in the press and on TV. She has the highest IQ of anyone who ran in 2008, but was portrayed as stupid. Why? Because she didn't want to play by the rules of those who really are in charge.

And no, I'm not a Palin cheerleader. All politicians have skeletons and have done questionable things - including her. "They" just went out of their way to make an example out of her because she wasn't playing by the rules.

reply to post by Southern Guardian

Originally posted by skeptic1
The woman and her family were treated horribly by the media

from SG
As if she was the only one. Really now. Its so ironic to see the typical suspects and their personal insults towards Clinton and Obama now act as if Palin is the woman who has recieved criticism, insults from the public and the media.

This type of reasoning - that bad behavior is justified by other bad behavior - is so hypocritical. The same libs refuse to apply this to wartime activities of our troops.

"We can't saw the heads off of our captives, even though they do. We must be above that!"

But it's OK when it comes to Palin, just because it might have happened to the Clintons, eh?

Hypocrites.

Originally posted by jsobecky
This type of reasoning - that bad behavior is justified by other bad behavior - is so hypocritical.



But it's OK when it comes to Palin, just because it might have happened to the Clintons, eh?

Hypocrites.

Strong words coming from someone who admits that it "might" have happened to others in the past. And yes, the Kernel has seen the Dems take heat from the right here at ATS. So when directed at one of your own you complain. Who's the hypocrites?

reply to post by eightonefive

Originally posted by eightonefive
I am not a supporter of Palin, and I think she would've made a terrible VP, and while I'm not familiar with her track record as Gov. of AL,

While we're picking nits here....

Governor Palin is not now and will probably never be, Governor of AL (Alabama).

She is, however, a very accomplished and competent Governor of AK (Alaska).

Did you go to the same schools that Barack "57 States" Obama went to?

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Originally posted by Kernel Korn
Strong words coming from someone who admits that it "might" have happened to others in the past. And yes, the Kernel has seen the Dems take heat from the right here at ATS. So when directed at one of your own you complain. Who's the hypocrites?

Strong words indeed.

My complaints are against hypocritical attitudes. As in "But he did it, so why can't I?"

Understand now? There comes a point where that behavior must cease and desist. But the liberal MSM will not allow it to die; they have no scruples. Neither do their politicians.