OBAMA isnt a citizen, he shouldnt be Prez

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posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 08:55 AM
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Not 100% sure but perhaps it's when that particular copy was stamped and signed by Alvin T. Onaka.




posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by whatukno
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Not 100% sure but perhaps it's when that particular copy was stamped and signed by Alvin T. Onaka.



Kind of takes the "original" right out doesn't it.

It's been made pretty clear, in this very thread, that any of us, regardless of where we were born, are capable of obtaining the same certification of live birth from Hawaii as Obama has provided as his evidence of birth place. It would be just as "legit" as his, and certified by the state of Hawaii. The only issue is that we weren't actually born there. To me, this recently produced document does not constitute proof of his birthplace. How could it, since any of us could get the same thing, no matter where we were born.

The question still stands, why not simply show the original, and squash the whole subject?



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by Unit541

Originally posted by whatukno
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Not 100% sure but perhaps it's when that particular copy was stamped and signed by Alvin T. Onaka.



Kind of takes the "original" right out doesn't it.

It's been made pretty clear, in this very thread, that any of us, regardless of where we were born, are capable of obtaining the same certification of live birth from Hawaii as Obama has provided as his evidence of birth place.



Yes, but if you did that it wouldn't say you were born in Hawaii. His does. How hard is that to understand?



In other words, his 'certificate of live birth' states which island, county, etc.. in Hawaii that he was born on. If I was to go get one, it would still be a Hawaii certification, but it would say I was born in Florida.

It's really very simple, if you actually think about it.



posted on Jul, 10 2009 @ 07:15 PM
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Maybe he has a fake birth certificate. This plan could be a very complicated plan that has taken extremely long to plan. Maybe the person who deemed it certified is in on it.



posted on Jul, 11 2009 @ 12:37 AM
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It's been made pretty clear, in this very thread, that any of us, regardless of where we were born, are capable of obtaining the same certification of live birth from Hawaii as Obama has provided as his evidence of birth place. It would be just as "legit" as his, and certified by the state of Hawaii. The only issue is that we weren't actually born there. To me, this recently produced document does not constitute proof of his birthplace. How could it, since any of us could get the same thing, no matter where we were born.



Originally posted by whatukno
Hawaiian state law allows children born outside Hawaii get valid Hawaiian birth certificates



Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.





Already debunked that.



The question still stands, why not simply show the original, and squash the whole subject?


Because no one can have the original birth certificate. You don't have one. The original is in whatever state record office that holds it. You can get a legal copy of it. That copy for all intents and purposes is the original. As long as it is stamped and sealed it is the genuine thing.

How many times do you have to see it? It's online. A certified copy is for all intents and purposes an original. Sorry you can't quite grasp the concept that Obama is a natural born US citizen. Sorry you have to make a mountain out of absolutely nothing. Sorry you feel your entitled to probe and prod for something that is not your right to probe and prod about.

No matter how many times you feebly whine and use circular and flawed logic to try and impose your position, it doesn't matter, because in the end the fact remains that Obama was born in Hawaii to a naturally born American mother. Which makes him quite eligible for the office he now and for the next 3.5 years holds.

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Oh please



posted on Aug, 4 2009 @ 11:56 AM
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My birth certificate isnt stamped or sealed. Thats why they wouldnt let me get an ID.

Anyway... Back to the thread.

He could have inside people saying his birth certificate is real. They all could be in on it. The person that approved it as genuine, the person that stamped it. Why couldnt they be working for obama?





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