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Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to post by kozmo
Like I said, he did show his birth certificate during the campaign. Until there is proof that his birth certificate was faked- and- not just mere speculation- my mind about this issue will remain unchanged. I think this is a conspiracy theory propagated by various conservative factions who were against Obama during the Presidential campaign who didn't want him elected. There are other deeper questions more worth our time than this... such as the question if he bought out the media during the campaign, or, if this was devised long before... there are other questions more worth our time.
Originally posted by kozmo
Wait just a minute... My cousin who lives in Germany gave birth to her twin girls in Hamburg but there was a birth announcment in both the Cleveland paper and the Detroit paper to alert family and freinds. Well, at least they'll be US Citizens because it was reported in the newspaper!
And you know what is the difference between God and Barack Obama...God does not think He is Barack Obama...hahaha
Originally posted by RRconservative
I know Obama is considered a "God" by Democrats. But the only thing Obama has in common with God is that they both don't have birth certificates.
Originally posted by Missing Blue Sky
reply to post by Frankidealist35
I does matter. It is important and intrinsic to what the United States of America is about. We are a sovereign nation of free people who have independence, rights and freedom. Our nation is unlike any other in the world.
Our president must be free from foreign influence. He must be loyal and devoted to preserving the freedoms of the 50 states. A "naturalized" citizzen will by nature of thier birth have foreign entaglements, sympathies and competing influence of ideology. John Mc Cain was also not elegible to be president, some contend- because being born in Panama, he is Naturalized and not natural born. I believe the entaglements and influences of this non native land birth is evident in the personality of both men.
Obama looks to progressive sociological ideas for answers to solve problems that are larger than what his reach should be...because of his global childhood and experience. He only needs to be concerned with the executive office duties as laid out in the Constitution.
McCains predominant military life...literally from birth...leads him in a direction of anger and vindication. He wanted to be a president who would be strong militarily...because of his way of life. This also is not the right perspective for our President to have. We need a more level headed and egalitarian approach. He needs to be a man who knows the American people, has worked with them, gone to school with them ...knows about all the classes:poor, middle and affluent and can engage and understand the challenges and successes of each. The founding fathers KNEW what they were doing, and Natural Born is the simplest of all definitions...means born on US soil. This is a constitutional requirement. I hope it is never amended by fools who do not understand its import.