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A Primary Quantum Model of Telepathy, quantum superluminal communication

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posted on Jul, 3 2009 @ 12:56 PM
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There are several Eastern philosophies that point to consciousness as the medium which we live in, and material being secondary; Vedanta, Dzogchen, and Tibetan Buddhist theories.

I personally spent about 4 years of my life living the lifestyle of a Tibetan Buddhist monk. I found that through very basic practices such as counting one's breath and focusing on not-thinking/dissolving thoughts, many psychic abilities and healing abilities arrived naturally, without ANY desire for them.

One main idea I took with me from a Buddhist Lama was that your consciousness is wherever you choose it to be. This is evidenced in remote viewing, remote healing, many psychic abilities, even in certain dream states.

We learn from the age of a few months old that we are "human," "material," and "individual" even though those ideals aren't exactly true - in my opinion.

Great thread! Star and Flag




posted on Jul, 3 2009 @ 01:26 PM
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cool paper, i am sitting infront of my computer regardless of the outer perimeter. at the same time a woman burns her hand in china...



posted on Jul, 3 2009 @ 01:58 PM
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The second paper segways into the information in the first paper. They both should be read to see the correlation between them. The second paper was presented at the RAND corporation and was sponsored by DARPA. I wonder what they are doing with the information? That would be interesting to know.



posted on Jul, 3 2009 @ 02:14 PM
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If you think about what you are doing at the time you are doing it would it cause feedback..?




posted on Jul, 3 2009 @ 04:20 PM
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Thank you DangerDeath I actually was able to understand what you so easily verbalized/wrote. That made so much sense I could almost see the actual possiblity of this "Quantum Model of Telepathy". Thanks again!!



posted on Jul, 3 2009 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by weedev
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If you think about what you are doing at the time you are doing it would it cause feedback..?



That's an interesting question actually. Because I have experienced visual feedback. While looking at myself in a mirror...looking into my own eyes, I experience a very brief but extremely intense feedback loop.
I'm afraid that if I got locked into it, I would either go insane or into a coma..

Anyone else experienced this?



posted on Jul, 3 2009 @ 04:42 PM
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When I was in the Army in the bathroom they had 2 walls of sinks facing each other and each sink had a mirror. At just the right angle you would see an infinite feedback loop of yourself standing in front of the mirror from a dozen different angles. It was rather astonishing.



posted on Jul, 3 2009 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by UFOTECH
reply to post by juzchilln
 


When I was in the Army in the bathroom they had 2 walls of sinks facing each other and each sink had a mirror. At just the right angle you would see an infinite feedback loop of yourself standing in front of the mirror from a dozen different angles. It was rather astonishing.



And even more interesting is what two opposing mirrors reflect?

But our mind does the same - it reflects. And if it is quieted down, one "frowns" instantly back into the reality we reflect so meticulously (like in your example).

This moment of interruption is a quantum leap - when we don't reflect the input.

Someone mentioned Tibetan Buddhist meditation practice.
For instance, concentrating on sound input.
This is how it is done:
Your "task" is to make notice of every sound you hear, but you don't reflect upon it. You don't make a statistical account, sequence or interpretation of what you hear.
This is literally like jumping from one floating ice chunk to another and thus crossing the semi frozen river. Or like surfing on waves, you ignore everything but staying on top of it.

If you successfully disconnect from usual sequencing the input, you gain the ability to distinguish sounds from very afar, which would normally be lost within the background noise. It is very true and fascinating. One can hear an insect from a mile afar, or a bird, or people talking.

What really happens here in my opinion is that we actually recalibrate our senses, like adjusting some fine instrument. The energy for such modulation and filtering is acquired from disassembling the existing perceiving habit (our normal interpretation of the input).

The same meditation can be done with concentration on visual input, and so on. So you can see very small details in far distance. But in order to do that you must "destroy" your normal perception.

This experience, while a tempting one, actually makes one accustomed to the idea that we are very different from what we were actually taught in our normal social environment. It shows us how easy it actually is to control the energy we possess and how great amount of energy we really possess.

Concentration practically means reducing the input from the outside by filtering it from within. What really performs the filtering is the energy released by discontinuing our habitual perception (reflection). Energy "knows how" to do that, don't ask me to explain it. It is a matter of experience and cannot be subject to reasoning. Force is knowledge, that is the simple meaning of this.

If this doesn't make much sense, try the approach like Karl Jung did: he called this collective experience "the subconscious", and in truth it is a huge reservoir of energy which is actually racial or collective knowledge. This reservoir of knowledge is possibly much more than simply "racial".


If one learns how to tap it, one is well on the way of a true genius.



posted on Jul, 3 2009 @ 06:39 PM
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We at the largest part seem to use wrong or vague definitions to describe the functions of our psyche/brain/way of interacting and accumulating information from the environment.

You can't begin to solve problems if the starting definitions that describe a hypothetical situation are wrong or vague.

The brain as a hypothetical device has many more functions that we may want to acknowledge. There is a use and reasons for existence for everyone of them.
Most times our brain is active at work at the subconscious level. Feelings are the signals it send to our psyche.
Our psyche is the perception of our logical environment, the sets of information we are accumulating in contrast to how we want to act upon them.
Definitely our brain uses mapping processes to make us aware of the environment. These "information maps" are perceived/understood by us according to the state and level that our perception wishes to interact upon them.
Fear, anxiety, sorrow, happiness, fulfillment, love, hate, interest, likeness, habits etc etc. Feelings in general.

The brain must be working at a level concept of virtual environments. We may are beings with limited perception of our quantum potential, or our possible quantum states of existence, or even the quantum possibilities that surrounds us, but the brain is the only organ in our body that can receive and transmit and analyze information at its own mysterious level from all those realms and situations.

Our brain might be a powerful receive/transmit and analysis device helping us to tap in to a vast expanse of different realms, possibilities, altered states, parallel universes. It gets more complicated if we ponder at the thought that our mere act of observing of events, may also provide us with the ability to change the actual environments we hypothetically perceive through the many different levels of awareness and operations our brain is capable of performing.

We don't know how all this might work. Most people will find these concepts totally alien, but the physical world, especially at macro levels seems in fact designed and functioning like the device we use to perceive it. Our brain/psyche/soul which might actually be one thing but operating at many different levels. Quantum levels if you wish.



posted on Jul, 3 2009 @ 07:22 PM
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This all reminds me of a story I once heard.
Don't know if it is true or not, but it sounded plausible.

At some point in the past the US Government employed a bunch of spiritualists from different disciplines to congregate in Washington DC and have them meditate, or pray, in the hopes of lowering the murder rate in the city.

They were quite successful. Something like a decrease in the neighborhood of 35% on the year.

The implications are quite astounding. I am firmly of the belief that QM will bring us back to a more spiritual based lifestyle in the not too distant future.
Once people realize the "godlike" abilities inherent in all human beings, we we make that quantum leap people are referring to.

And oh yeah, we know this is possible because we know this is how the aliens communicate.



posted on Jul, 3 2009 @ 08:11 PM
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I recall a story like that from some book I read when I was a teenager some 29 years ago. It was something like Psychic Spies in the Pentagon or something of that nature. It has been so long I do not recall the exact title.

I have not picked up a parapsychology or occult science book in at least 25 years so it is hard to recall. I remember before I picked up higher math and science my mind was pretty fascinated with this subject. Once I started learning that the quantum mechanical world was even more fascinating then strange stories and that in fact fact was stranger than fiction that has been my focus of study.

Quantum spookiness as one of my co-workers calls it. That is where that second paper caught my attention. One of my favorite Sci-Fi authors once said:



Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke, "Profiles of The Future", 1961


I could not put it better.



posted on Jul, 3 2009 @ 10:55 PM
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If you're into higher math and physics, you'll like this link to this 50 paper series, if you hadn't seen it posted here in another thread.

smphillips.8m.com...



posted on Jul, 3 2009 @ 11:05 PM
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Thanks for the link but I did see it but not here it was on stumbleon. I gave it a thumbs up as I recall.



posted on Jul, 3 2009 @ 11:10 PM
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Interesting article... I speak about something along these lines in one of my posts.

I think it ties in together quite nicely.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

-Edrick



posted on Jul, 3 2009 @ 11:25 PM
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I gave your thread a look over and have stared and flagged it so I can revisit it when I have the time to go through all of those threads and links in it. I did find the thread title you chose rather unfortunate. But I will give it a read through before I comment further.



posted on Jul, 3 2009 @ 11:39 PM
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Pg 19 of Frank Herbert's book, "Dune"


The Bene Gesserit Littainy against Fear.

I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by UFOTECH
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I gave your thread a look over and have stared and flagged it so I can revisit it when I have the time to go through all of those threads and links in it. I did find the thread title you chose rather unfortunate. But I will give it a read through before I comment further.


Thank you for the attention.

I thought the title was quite appropriate.

As anyone seeking truth outside the common "Box" that society constructs around the world is deemed as "Insane"; it is impossible, therefore to seek absolute truth, and societies approval at the same time.

I am proud of being labeled as "Weird" or "Insane" by society...

IT means that I don't conform to a world view that is quite obviously wrong by every conceivable metric.

"Insanity is the only sane reaction to an insane society."
-Thomas Szas



-Edrick

[edit on 4-7-2009 by Edrick]



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 05:18 PM
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IMO, what we are seeing is evidence of a higher and unified consciousness.
God?

I don't know, but this is very strong evidence that all on this planet are ONE. And I mean that quite literally. An upper-dimensional being.

It is this type of work that can change the world if people would simply put aside their preconceived notions and look a little more closely at what the holy texts tell them.

Like an onion reality can be peeled away and while appearing to become smaller, always keeping the same potency. I exist here/ I exist aside from here... and within here.

The possibilities are virtually limitless.

Good stuff.



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 07:09 PM
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I think that people have picked up on the reality of the universe on a deeper level with intuition for a very long time. It is just now that our science is able to begin to confirm these intuitive understandings and provide empirical evidence of what is actual truth from what is just wishful thinking.

I have been studying quantum mechanics since the very first laymen terms book on the subject I had ever read. I started out with "The Tao of Physics" which was pretty superficial but intrigued me enough that I wanted to learn more of this science. I then read "The dancing Wuli Masters" which was far better and more interesting to me at least.

I realized that I would have to revisit math and gain a lot more in that area in order to go further. Many other good books have been written on the subject of quantum mechanics since those days of youth but this is now only becoming possible to explore as we develop the ability to manipulate matter on the level needed to see this quantum world in action.



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by JayinAR
IMO, what we are seeing is evidence of a higher and unified consciousness.
God?



Exactly! This is the same principle as "100 Monkeys".

It is like we are all individual drops but when we join together we are as the sea. We are part of god and god is part of us! God is pure consciousness. And when we "get it" we'll all become awesome.

I read somewhere "We are who we are waiting for!" Couldn't agree more.



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