A Primary Quantum Model of Telepathy, quantum superluminal communication, page 1

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Topic started on 3-7-2009 @ 01:28 AM by UFOTECH

Source: cogprints.org...

The physical nature of Psi phenomena such as telepathy is an important problem in the life information science. Scientists have confirmed the existence of telepathy phenomena through many strict experiments[1-3]. Then can modern science (e.g. quantum theory) provide a scientific explanation for telepathy phenomena? In this paper, we will seek the possible quantum nature of telepathy from both theoretical and experimental respects, and present a primary quantum model of telepathy phenomena. It will be shown that, according to the principle of quantum superluminal communication (QSC)[4-11], quantum theory can in principle provide a scientific explanation of telepathy phenomena, and some experiments have indicated the validity of this explanation[6]. Furthermore, we will propose a serious of feasible experimental schemes to test the quantum model, and discuss the technical possibility of realizing controllable and applicable human brain communication on the basis of the proposed experimental schemes. Lastly, we give some remarks and expectations about the technical virtue and application foreground of such communication means.

This is a very interesting paper on a theory of quantum superluminal communication as a model for telepathy in humans.

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 02:19 AM by OmegaPoint

If true, which it appears to be, then mind would have to be a macro quantum phenomenon..

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 02:32 AM by UFOTECH

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I am reading another paper which basically states just that and describes the biological construction of Qubit superposition switches in the Microtubules in the neurons in the human brain. It is a paper presented at RAND and sponsored by DARPA.

Source: www.quantumpsi.com...

Fascinating stuff and it really ties in with this other paper.

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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 03:36 AM by OmegaPoint

But the implications of that would be that consciousness is a non-local quantum phenomenon that also occurs outside of the scull, making of the human brain, less that of an internal computational storage medium, and more, that of a transluminal non-local transmission and recieving device, which accesses and retrieves information from outside of itself..

What are the materialists to do..?

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 03:47 AM by donhuangenaro

Originally posted by OmegaPoint

What are the materialists to do..?

oh, don't worry,
they will find ways
to delude themselves
as they always do

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 09:10 AM by T0by

Yeah that paper went way over my head.

Math gives me hurty brain.

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 09:21 AM by gaslaugh123

Great I have (at the most) three active brain cells working overtime to keep me out of trouble and (if I were to expose) these cells to this. It would kill them, instantly. Brain dead, now I understand.

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 09:48 AM by DangerDeath

It simply means that force is knowledge.
Force is metaphysical, it literally means it is "everywhere" as in "beyond". To reach it you need to make a "quantum leap". Once there, knowledge is available, and it may appear that there is "synchronicity" between you and somebody else, which is also called "telepathy".

Telepathy is not actually reproducing someone's stream of "thoughts", it is about knowledge of his intent(ion).

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 10:17 AM by Melyanna Tengwesta

These are very intriguing papers OP

Flag & Star!

I've read some parts roughly and understand more and more of some of my own experiences on telepathy and universal consiouness.

Originally posted by OmegaPoint

What are the materialists to do..?

Buy themselves out? Or try to sell the Quantum Field on the stockmarket?

They will be too busy counting their money instead of taking consious part in the Unified Field

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 10:33 AM by notreallyalive

reply to post by UFOTECH

I hope you'll take a moment to check out Vortex Pluralism as well. Presented by Dr. Vernon Neppe of the Pacific NeuroPsychiatric Institute.
It deserves its own thread but I haven't made time to do it.

www.pni.org...

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 10:40 AM by tkwasny

Originally posted by OmegaPoint
But the implications of that would be that consciousness is a non-local quantum phenomenon that also occurs outside of the scull, making of the human brain, less that of an internal computational storage medium, and more, that of a transluminal non-local transmission and recieving device, which accesses and retrieves information from outside of itself..

What are the materialists to do..?

The brain is a transceiver into/from the recording medium which is space itself (linear and absolute), all contained in space (non-linear devices all), all within infinitesimal duration time "cells" (the motion of the "tape"over the tape heads).

That whole "Book of Life" thing. Birth-to-death recording. After our death (end recording) we physically are what we recorded. Those radiations still exist locked in those time cells of the past. They are you. We transition from a space-free/time-locked entity to the recording that we are and become a space-locked (can't change the recording, don't have a body anymore) time-free entity.

Man, I hope you record a Door out of that. Even the sweetest thing to happen to you while alive will be a torture in hell after you "run through it" a quadrillion times and it's always the same recording. Never any newness would suck big time, forever.

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 11:01 AM by DangerDeath

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I'd rather believe that our life's history is not us, but our "experience of life".

"Us" is the knowledge or experience, not the bits of information which can be arranged or not, this way or that way, depending on our free will or ignorance.

Brain is a projection screen onto which we translate our experience.
In that respect, the projected image will reflect our understanding.
Usually, as we master some phenomena, we also get out of it, since while trying to understand we get immersed.

It is not incidental that mystics claim that "blank mind" is the sign of highest attainment of knowledge.

As long as we wrestle with ideas or emotions, it means that we don't understand them fully.

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 11:17 AM by flying_tomato

I've read this site on and off for years, probably weekly. Finally decided to join because I wanted to post a question - assuming this quantum model is correct (or in the ballpark, which I think it is) how would the average adult go about developing their psychic potential in a reasonable manner - and by reasonable manner, I mean short of becoming a zen monk or a recluse, and assuming that our culture(s) and lifelong psychological conditioning are limiting factors here - it seems to me that it would be next to impossible to develop these inherent, ignored and undeveloped capabilities to such an extent that they become relevant to our daily life. Google searches yield tons of snake-oil, err, I mean promos for developing your psychic abilities. Would love to find something with some kind of legitimacy, similar to what gov'ts have tried to do with remote viewing. Not meaning to hijack the thread, but I can't start my own. Please post links, commentary or ideas expanding on how this info could actually be applied...

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 11:37 AM by UFOTECH

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Interesting. I have not put much thought into the application of the information having just found it late last night. It does present some intriguing possible models for a type of quantum superluminal communications. It also presents some possible models that would explain familial and even the twin phenomena.

These Microtubules that form the qubit switches in the brain are formed of proteins. In twins these proteins are likely nearly identically formed providing them with identical hardware for quantum superluminal communications.

It is possible in families given this model that since they regularly eat the same foods and they are in close proximity they actually grow their associations at a quantum entangled level of those feed source molecules.

It might be possible to in effect grow a PSI connection to another person by having the magnetic field close during identical quantum entangled protein absorption.

Things that are natural to our species like the mother child psychic bond might be formed by the child having absorbed quantum entangled proteins from the mother. Then when these entangled proteins are used by the body to form these qubit switches in the Microtubules in the neurons of the brain provide the biological basis for telepathy.

Perhaps some other method of delivery of quantum entangled proteins could be absorbed by groups to grow these same quantum superluminal communication networks over time.

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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 11:40 AM by arbiture

while I dismiss the concept of telepathic communication, I am Aware of the "Stargate" remote viewing techniques that were very or reasonably siccessfull.Now that we can see the brain actually thinking and using active MRI's and Pet Scans, I think it will open a whole new understanging with reprocucabl what poplle are thinking

We can momitor brain subjects and see what they are thinking.(Sooky)

But in many so-called pyscic readers, many seem to use it, unknowinlg perhaps a technique called "mirroring". This technique is also used in the early side of hypnosis. You very carefully are "mirror or mimic the paitent" Keep in mind, just because the Mono Lisa does not mean it desen;t exist. Looking further fore further readinng

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 11:41 AM by Psychonaughty

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Yes very interesting, the mind(YOU) and the matter (The body or entity that many close minded people believe to be them) that it envelops are all connected with all matter and energy as a whole, everything in this physical reallity is absloutley singular.

And if it's all singular is it all concious, and if thats so why not communicate with itself?

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 11:41 AM by UFOTECH

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Stared for the Simpsons reference.

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 11:48 AM by DangerDeath

reply to post by flying_tomato

Our ability to learn is all that counts. Knowledge (force) accumulates and cannot be consumed.
Being a monk doesn't mean living in a monastery.
Excluding yourself from protocols is same as "quantum leap". Something to think about.

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 11:56 AM by jkrog08

reply to post by UFOTECH

Interesting stuff,lol I thought when I saw the thread title that you had some new formula you made yourself! Interesting none the less.

reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 12:11 PM by UFOTECH

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Not yet. But we are working on quantum superluminal communications so I was searching for papers on the subject and ran into the 2 papers I source in my first 2 posts. They present a model for how the human brain accomplishes telepathic communications as well as other quantum level events.

Quantum mechanics has shown us that matter can be affected by the mind at a distance. We have recorded that when an experiment is observed by the scientist it is affected by their consciousness. It is likely that human attention has quantum effects on the material of the subject of our attention. That is why experimental outcomes are affected by observation.

This will lead us to some rather important discoveries I would postulate.

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