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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 08:20 PM by Ron Paul Girl
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Most commonly deposited along the tricep? Isn't that interesting. Isn't that where they will REQUIRE swine flu vaccinations to be given? No doubt they're working on shrinking the size of these chips so that they can be inserted without a person realizing it.


reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 08:24 PM by Totakeke
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They can't do that. For one, the chips can only be so small. The needle they use to inject the chips is huge; you couldn't inject a chip with a vaccine needle. Second, imagine the chaos and panic that would cause. Imagine them coming on the news and saying, "Everyone who had that vaccine now has an RFID chip in them. Enjoy the NWO." People have to willingly accept it, which will only happen after a catastrophic disaster.


reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 09:27 PM by Totakeke
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Then how do you explain all of the Bible prophecy being fulfilled right before our eyes? The fact is, people 2 000 years ago didn't know about computers, electricity, etc. There's no way anyone could've predicted that the technology would become available to track everyone and regulate whether or not they could buy and sell. And yet, for the first time ever in history, we have the means to regulate a world economy and control the buying and selling ability of every human on Earth. The only way someone could've predicted this was through divine intervention.


reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 10:10 PM by Manjushri Bodhisattva
No, I would Rather Die.



reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 10:58 PM by milesp
reply to post by Totakeke



I think it's extremely dangerous when people start interpreting current events as signs of a coming biblical apocalypse because it means they're more likely to fulfill the bogus prophecies.


reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 11:22 PM by Totakeke
reply to post by milesp



Then please explain to me how someone centuries ago could have predicted the tracking of every human being.


reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 12:27 AM by suzque66
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Then please explain to me how someone centuries ago could have predicted the tracking of every human being.


Isn't that scary that long before any capitalist societies from an early trade of gold/metals etc for food or labour that the writers of the bible would predict such an obscure issue?

I guess what it implies is that since the development of trade by any man-created coin/money standard is the initial sin of having such a mark. Is the mark of the beast ownage of anything something so ridiculous and un-necessary as a metal that's only use is jewelry or as a trinket instead of trading a fat yam for 6 small apples?

Besides that. Lets say some of us take this 'mark of the beast' out of sheer desperation in wanting to live or our offspring to live.....how and what are the ways to make it impossible to buy, sell or TRADE. I can understand how it can be impossible to buy or sell (look at large corporations taking over mom and pop businesses, aka controlling the buyer through the seller) but how can they stop 'trade'? Any ideas?

Is it possible that every detail of your height, weight, work energy, health, movement, location etc will be sooooo well documented and calucated that if you were to trade (food etc) that they would know?

How else can they stop trading (of anything)?

Is (within the public) prostitution (which is a form of slavery) the only form of trade that cannot be tabulated? Since losing a meal for example would not be so great of a cost to someone who wanted to purchase such a deed. Yet, if you can only recieve meals given at certain locations, is that even impossible?? What can be traded in these worse of times in a closely scrutinized life such as a deeper instance of Orwell's 1984??

Anyone know?


reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 01:12 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Originally posted by wonderworld
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post by ProtoplasmicTraveler



It will take a catastrophic global event before the chip is mandatory. Say 10’s of thousands of people disappeared and the Government declared there was a mass Alien invasion.(Go immediately to your local fire department school, federal building to get your free ID chip) I know that sounds crazy. A total meltdown of the global economy could be a reason. They will make it sound wonderful and probably add 5 grand worth of credits to your chip for signing up.


Honestly I am pretty fortunate compared to most people when it comes to the New World Order Crowd, some of it's prominent members as well as several of the World's intelligence agencies respect that I have certain skills that even though I am politically at odds with their agendas they all find my skills usefull from time to time.

One of my clients is a company called Zeitgroup, and they are on the cutting edge of chip technology.

They have two offices their headquarters in Italy and the other in Miami where I live...

I actually require them to listen to a 20 minute lecture on the evil and nefarious nature of their products when ever they call me and how I am tempted not to help them when they do because of it, but they assure me like all technologies and systems there are ways around it, holes in it, and ways to defeat it, and lets just say I am very creative when it comes to exactly how I require some people to pay me for my services.

Chipping doesn't scare me, because I won't be chipped and even if I was by some strange chance by force, I will be able to defeat the chip and render it useless.

Space aliens, pandemics, the 972nd farewell tour by the Rolling Stones with the 1045th farewell tour of the Who double billing them doesn't even scare me.

Barry Manilow kind of scares me, but hey, he has a nice model train collection and is a friendly enough guy so as long as they don't make it a Barry Marathon Weekend like in One Flew Over the Cukoos Nest or get a chip, I think I will pass on the chip.

I have other advantages when it comes to the New World Order and that's that everyone loves Miami, that's why some strange companies, and people end up doing business here and most of the world's intelligence agencies and criminal networks have a larger than usual presence here as well.

That's not all that has a larger than normal presence here, there are no fewer than three very well armed and very well trained militias that have been practicing for years for the day they can stage another Bay of Pigs invasion and none of them are friendly to the New World Order and Miami as a whole is difficult for the Federal Government to control and is basically a third world City/State in it's own right.

At the end of the day the only way the New World Order is going to take over this town is by putting it under 100 feet of water, which is a genuine concern, but I feel confident someone in the know will give me a heads up.

People should watch the God Father movies more..."keep your friends close but your enemies closer" and I am close as close can be with mine

Most everyone else should be worried and for darn good reason, but remember where there is a will there is a way!

There is a fine line between genius and insanity called success, being more than a little crazy...especially in crazy times...is a smart thing to be in my humble oppinion.

I have never seen a system or an orginization that did not have exploitable holes and flaws.

People who want to stand up too and at least survive if not actually fight against the New World Order just need to look for those flaws and holes in their systems.


reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 04:39 AM by milesp
Originally posted by Totakeke
reply to
post by milesp



Then please explain to me how someone centuries ago could have predicted the tracking of every human being.


I don't think anyone did.

If you read the actual passage it doesn't say anything about tracking people, just that they would not be able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast. You can interpret the bible passage however you want, but I think it's incredibly vague.

And by the way, has anyone actually read the book of Revelations? It's absolute lunacy.


reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 05:38 AM by Totakeke
Originally posted by milesp
Originally posted by Totakeke
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post by milesp



Then please explain to me how someone centuries ago could have predicted the tracking of every human being.


I don't think anyone did.

If you read the actual passage it doesn't say anything about tracking people, just that they would not be able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast. You can interpret the bible passage however you want, but I think it's incredibly vague.

And by the way, has anyone actually read the book of Revelations? It's absolute lunacy.


"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." Revelation 13:16-17 KJV

There's no way someone could have predicted this without divine intervention. People thousands of years ago couldn't predict that someone would have the ability to administer a mark to every human on Earth, nor could they predict that someone would have the ability to completely regulate all trade. Something like that was unheard of and even inconceivable back then. It was even unthinkable just a few hundred years ago. Only now do we have the ability to assign a mark (probably an RFID chip) to every human and regulate their trade.

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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 09:06 AM by wonderworld
reply to post by Manjushri Bodhisattva



I would rather die, as well. Most will see us as anti-government radicals or radical Christians. They wont understand why we refuse. We better prepare for some of our family to take this chip under pressure or doubting their faith. Scary
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