Originally posted by cropmuncher
okay once once, i will ask this - do you actually read my posts?

Yes I read your posts, but your name is "crop" muncher. Its hard to care what you have to say.

Originally posted by cropmuncher
by that i mean take in what i have written because i have not said this circle was real nor have i said that aliens ARE responsible.

Do you read my posts? I never once commented about what you believe or don't believe, because I really don't care.

Originally posted by cropmuncher
every post you make in replying to mine seems to discount what i have written and instead is a knee jerk reaction to what you think im saying.

That's because you aren't reading what I am saying. Well, at least you aren't comprehending what I am saying. Your mind is set in such a way that if I make a short reply to your comment, you automatically think its a knee jerk reaction. The reality is, my view is so easy to see that I don't need to make a long winded post.

Originally posted by cropmuncher
You seem bright enough yet you have an arrogance that supercedes your intelligence and please dont take that as an insult but as an observation from someone who has tried to have some healthy debate (with a bit of banter ) and has even been agreeing with you, despite your failure to see that.

It's because everything you have said, and everything you will ever say, I ALREADY KNOW. Ive seen (imagined) all your views, Ive seen (imagined) all your opinions, and every opinion you will ever have. I am WAY PAST YOU.

You have categorized me as someone who is "trying to debunk all crop circles" and you think I am "arrogant" because you think I am closed minded. You are WRONG, I am so open minded that I have already surpassed your view of life, and I am now looking back. I know more than you think I know.

Originally posted by cropmuncher
And now you are expexcting everyone to agree with you because you know best and even when it comes to other subjects like god, you are right & everyone else is wrong.

No I am not expecting everyone to agree with me, that's why you think I am arrogant, because YOU are the TRUE BLIND ONE, you can not see my vies, but I can see all of yours.

I do NOT expect everyone to agree with me.... what gave you that idea?? Your closed mind did.

About God... You obviously are not enlightened enough to understand.

Originally posted by cropmuncher
All i will say is read what people are actually saying instead of reading it how you want to read it & you might learn something.

That was a close minded comment. What makes you think you know what I am thinking and what I am reading? You are making assumptions.

Originally posted by cropmuncher
Anyhow im done with this thread,

Good finally. You contributed nothing new to this thread. Everything you have said I predicted from the very start. I even predicted you coming to this thread. Remember?

More mere conjecture,name calling and motive assignation.The OP says EVIDENCE.That would include FACTS.Not ASSumptions based on facts,like the 'It-can't-be-aliens-'cause-it-took-three-days"malarkey.How far they must have come as compared to this 'primitive'way of transferring info,etc. means nothing.

Even with permission,perfect execution?Time and again,no flaws.like someone falling down or going over the mark,Hmmm.No footprints?Car tracks?Candy wrappers/ciggie butts?Nothing at all?After a quick high stepping dash around a field in snowshoes,anyone would be dragging ass and prone to leaving a trail.Ask any trapper about trailing,you can read a lot about the quarry in hir footprints,like if they are injured or carrying a load or are tired.And you will leave a trail that a pro would pick up.And be trackable by dogs.Farm dogs even.Evidence ought to be ez. to find.

To prove this phenom man made and not extra terrestrial,don't you have to prove they ALL were man made?For even one ET circle would disprove the notion that they are all man made.

And just like in a Court of Law,if you are caught in one lie(under Oath)your credibility is forever suspect.Same for the vid hoaxer.Even if to prove a point.He's an admitted hoaxer as are those two guys.Not to be believed without verification.How about a lie detector test?

Originally posted by Rybo666
A bit hypocritical? you metioned in an earlier post that you humans are unintelligent if they believe this and think they are right.

Yet you seem pretty adamant that you are RIGHT on opposing the matter and cannot seem to accept that people believe what they want to believe, who are you to tell them otherwise?

Keep patronising views to yourself, i'm sure they are not welcome here.

But I have more supporting reasons to believe my view, and you people have ZERO supporting reasons.

I already pointed to all the reasons.

1: Crop circle is made in an areas with high crop circle activity. No "aliens" to be found. Points to a group of people making it.
2: Crop circle is made in area where man-made crop circles have been made.
3: Crop circle is made in area where professional crop circle makers live.
4: Crop circle shows signs of using simple human tools.
5: Crop circle shares same design as other crop circles in the same area.
6: Crop circle was made over a long period of days, and is consistent with the amount of complexity. Stage 2 took 2 days because it was less complex, Stage 3 took 7 days because it was more complex than stage 2.
7: Crop circles with similar shapes have also been known to be made over multiple stages.
8: Crop circle is being promoted by hoax promoters.
9: Crop circles have been known to be made for profit.
10: Farmers are known to get paid to have crop circles made in their crops.


Wow lots of evidence (reasons to believe)!

Where is the evidence (reason to believe) it is not man-made??

[edit on 3-7-2009 by 0nce 0nce]

Occam's Razor;

If nobody has seen "aliens" making these crop circles, who is left to blame? Humans.

Good stuff OP, and a thank you. It's fine to be skeptical, and it's fine to be optimistic, however what annoys me is the over analyzing of what they may or may not mean. If in fact they are real, I have a hard time believing etch a sketch on crops versus radio signals are a preferred method of communication.

Originally posted by Rybo666
haha pushed a button did i?

Nope. You just think you did, because you have a wild imagination.

Originally posted by Rybo666
The only reason none of your so called 'evidence' is pointing at the fact that it was alien made is because you are biased.

Thats probably the most dumb reason Ive ever heard. In fact, that isn't a reason at all. Compared to the 10+ reasons I just posted, that reason is basically worthless.

I am not biased. You are just a conformer who puts people in categories. For some reason you think I have set myself up to be against crop circles. that is not the case. If I see evidence that "aliens" made the crop circle, I will GLADLY change my mind. Which means I am not biased.

But since all the evidence so far points to it being man-made, well, that is what I will discuss...

Originally posted by Rybo666
Personally i could not give a flying f**k if it's real or not, the fact that you are so desperate to keep your dignity in this matter is laughable.

LOL! I had to censor your F word. If you don't care, then why are you taking your time posting?

Now you are not adding anything to the content of this topic, except rants. You should probably at least try to find some "evidence" that "aliens" made the crop circle, or, leave.

I started this thread, and I'm going to defend it. It's not being desperate, it's called "standing my ground".

[edit on 3-7-2009 by 0nce 0nce]

This is real evidence of the double standards of some

You provide evidence showing that it's humans behind crop patterns
Its regarded as not enough by the believers.

The believers provide even shoddier evidence of alien life and then throw their toys out of the pram if you question it.

If the equivalent quality of evidence was supplied by the believers showing visiting aliens, then the believers wouldn't be s'n-word'ed at on the news (as much)

I think a poll is in order: Crop Circles - Aliens/Humans?


EDITED: What? You cant say SNI66ER!?! as in "a quiet and disrespectful laugh kept to oneself "


[edit on 3/7/09 by Daisy-Lola]

Originally posted by TSer78
Good stuff OP, and a thank you. It's fine to be skeptical, and it's fine to be optimistic, however what annoys me is the over analyzing of what they may or may not mean. If in fact they are real, I have a hard time believing etch a sketch on crops versus radio signals are a preferred method of communication.

Very good point!

I was brushing on that reasoning on another thread.

It would be way easier to try to communicate with radio signals, or maybe even light.

I was so open minded in fact, that I was assuming they were super intelligent, and that they could probably translate their language into our language, and then leave messages.

Or even, hack into our wireless interent services, and watch us post on forums, and have access to all our knowledge, and learn from us. Maybe even send e-mails.

I was so open minded that I even thought about aliens landing on Earth, and some how getting a hold of our books, and learning that way.

Helicopter pilots and private pilots use large words and symbols on top of some buildings for navigation help, maybe they can learn from that and at least try to create a crop circle that we could understand.

Or even try to talk with math and numbers, the universal language.


But, NOPE, none of that seems to be happening.

All that seems to be happening is humans making super complex graphics that are made to look "not from this world", so that it fools people easier. Because nobody would believe it is alien-made if they could actually understand the message.

[edit on 3-7-2009 by 0nce 0nce]

Originally posted by Rybo666
Catagorizing people is what you do remember "crop circle-jerks"?

Sorry, it wasn't a category, it was actually the most appropriate term for a bunch of people with the same beliefs, getting pleasure out of insulting me, and giving stars to each other.

I said jerk, not jerks (plural).

circlejerk-
To kneel in a circle with others and pleasure oneself.