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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 03:47 PM by ualredyknow
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Correct . This guy seems to be just plane mad as hell and not going to take anymore . bottom line STUPID
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 03:47 PM by k4sp3r
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Ok, the WORLD economy is screwed right now.
who's gonna do something like a giant crop circle in the middle of a field FOR FREE right now?!?!!
any crop circle's like the one's above would take MANY people if they were done even in 3 days, because obviously its in the same design style or
language as the other 3 that have appeared recently.
WHO is gonna do that much work in this s***ty economy just for the heck of it?!?!
Answer: NO HUMAN
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 03:51 PM by ualredyknow
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Still what does it mean? how about they gave us time to try in understand by making it that way in 9 days.
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 04:01 PM by trueforger
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This is an important clue.If man made,it means that either the wheat fields in other countries are somehow not suitable or the copy cats can't get it
together,say,over here.Since these were so easy to do,circles are just a string around a post,right?There are plans and tips on line as well.Well?GPS
here?All good for hoaxers.Plus no one would be looking,say in Iowa,for pranksters like by the famous Chalk Horse in GB.Isn't this movie going to be
released over here as well?
Geography is going to be no problem for a space traveller,so if UFO how's that work?
An obvious assumption is that there is a small group of guys doing it,centered in a small geographic region,because...maybe they can only get around
by bike.This has been going on for years,remember.And yet they have not been found out.Or caught.Or blabbed about how much fun theyre having fooling
EVERYBODY.Such an elaborate hoax.For what purpose than to mystify and never tell.In a very small area as compared to Iowa.
So my hypothesis of it being Ancestors may hold the explanation.We have plenty of old stories of the Ancients and geographical boundaries associated
with hauntings.This is axiomatic,that Ghosts haunt the region they were Killed at or a place they held in their mind and coulden't shake.And this
region is long reputed to be such a place,some of the West's oldest Sacred Groves.Druids.Ley lines.Also there is the slight mocking humor aspect of
all this,fits right in with my theory.Sticking with it and I am glad I'm the lone voice with this view.I wanna see in the next one the Winged
Serpent,Quetzalcoatl with an ATS logo worked in.
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 04:05 PM by ArMaP
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Originally posted by k4sp3r
WHO is gonna do that much work in this s***ty economy just for the heck of it?!?!
Answer: NO HUMAN
Artist do their work despite economical conditions, if they can afford their materials.
Also, during economic crisis there is always someone that wants to spend money, it's the best time for some things.
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 04:17 PM by dragonridr
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Your being niave artists are usually poor and do it for the art! very rearly do you make money off art you usually have to create a market for your
art which it seems these circle makers are doing a nice job of it. They actually find companies that will pay to have there logo in a crop circle now
thats how you do it.However in order to make money with this they would also have to keep public intrest in crop circles so making one in a field for
free only helps perpetuate the industry.
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 04:23 PM by Exopolitico
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Originally posted by ualredyknow
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OK Smart A. Since you know that for a fact then tell the world what does it mean Dr? and please don't keep us waiting we don't have much time
left..
You keep implying that I know something. I don't. I am only telling you're only looking at one possibility when there could be more. Conventional
wisdom says aliens do not exist; although that may not be true, as there is no evidence to prove that. There are other ways in which the crop circles
could have been made, including military technology. That's all. Don't put all your eggs in the "human" basket.
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 04:27 PM by Exopolitico
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Why do I doubt it was human, as in manually made by the Dougs and Daves of the world? If this crop circle was done in three phases, someone noticed
the first one. You would think the farmer or people adjacent, or perhaps planes flying over, would notice someone doing it on the second and third
run. No one noticed. Doing it at night would require lots of illumination to accomplish something so difficult.
I can't see how it manually made (note how I'm not using the word human).
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 04:32 PM by trueforger
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So where is the logo in this one?And where does the three installment aspect of this fit into your theory?And why only here?Why not everywhere the
movie will be released?How does the image,which enters the public domain as soon as it is photographed without claim of authorship benefit the
artist?I can see if they had the rights and sold the pix but that would require destroying the image as soon as you had your picture to prevent a
better cheaper picture getting profit from your effort.This defies logic.One thing for certain,after the movie release this purported motivation of
being an advertising stunt pretty much evaporates.Final note is the "writing" would be decipherable if it were a time sensitive ad campaign.No it's
Terrence.
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 04:42 PM by Bluebelle
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The more I think about the more ridiculous crop circles seem, if they're being made by aliens it is.
People have all sorts of ideas of why aliens may make these, and what their intentions are.
1. People who say they're made in a cryptic way so as to test us. Survival of the fittest and all that... if they make a crop circle in some random
field that predicts the end of the world in say a week. There's that many crop circles about, it probably isnt going to be made a huge deal of, so
really only a few hundered/thousand people are going to ever know that this was made. How is that fair to billions of other people out there? They
arent even given the chance to be 'tested' to prove that we have enough faith/intelligence to survive.
2. Im not sure how many crop circles have been made and not been owned up to - but Im assuming its a fair few. Which leads me to question how many of
them have actually come to anything?
3. I think its a pretty widespread belief that our Governments are aware that aliens exist, and if they are coming down to our planet then they are in
contact with them. With all those satellites and crap, they must know.
And so why if they are in contact, would they feel the need to warn the general public of things.
I know the answer to that could be that the Government dont want us to know for whatever reason (the insane panicking, wanting the worlds population
to be a tad smaller etc). But you'd assume that by them not wanting to tell us, and going to alot of trouble to hide things, that they wouldnt want
aliens telling us either.
So, maybe the aliens want us to know.. so they'd have to try and give us a subtle message? And thats where that theory gets messed up.. because a
crop circle could seriously NOT get any less subtle. Apart from if they maybe if they attached fairy lights to it and a big flashy sign saying
'COOOEEE LOOK HERE!'
4. What are the benefits of using crop circles when we have so many other communication methods that would be better suited to giving the world an
important message?
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 04:46 PM by 0nce 0nce
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I think you all need to read this entire thread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
...and now I can say "I TOLD YOU SO".
The guy came forward, told us about a "Humming Bird" crop circle.... then 2 weeks later... A crop circle shows up as a humming bird.
He confessed to making them, and proved it.
All in Wiltshire.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
And guess what website promoted the known hoax first!
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 05:07 PM by MacATK18
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Once Once:
your assertion:
"The crop circle took three phases to create because it is human made and it took them a long time"
is not based on the fact that it took 9 days to create. Your assertion is based on your preconceived notions on the matter, and this is BLATANTLY
obvious to everyone. And here's why:
are you an alien possessing the knowledge of crop circle creation and processes? likewise are you a person involved in their creation? IF you answered
NO to these questions then your ASSERTION is based on YOUR ESTIMATIONS and not EXPERT ANALYSIS or TANGIBLE EVIDENCE, IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE.
HOW can you make such an assertion knowing nothing of the processes involved? You can't. No one can.
I have to go or I would refute all your assertions. More later..
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 05:41 PM by trueforger
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One could just as plausably assert that his requesting a hummingbird was the impetus for other worldly forces to do just that to tweak us,one and
all,especially him.Or the archetype of hummingbird was bubbling up and both forces were acting in unconscious concert.One day soon,a crew of
pranksters might get struck ass-over-teakettle by a satellite both doing the same Crop Art,same crop time,same crop field and finally a REAL UFO
completes the job to the amazement of all,but none of the cameras work and they are so wigged out they can't speak...As the Ancestors laugh...PS one
more thing.About the two week wait.Using certain logic,the more alien probability being based on speed,for example the 9 day job life as evidence of
human involvement,musta been REALLY made by humans,no?
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 05:41 PM by dragonridr
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Originally posted by 0nce 0nce
I think you all need to read this entire thread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
...and now I can say "I TOLD YOU SO".
The guy came forward, told us about a "Humming Bird" crop circle.... then 2 weeks later... A crop circle shows up as a humming bird.
He confessed to making them, and proved it.
All in Wiltshire.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
And guess what website promoted the known hoax first!
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See heres the funny part people when put in this situation will next say well OK some are man made but not all. But the funny part is if you can prove
that anything is man made you don't have to prove there all man made its called logic. See the problem with people is they want to believe something
so bad they overlook evidence that contradicts by saying well that doesn't prove this one was the same. If its a crop circle it makes a pattern its
made by a crop circle artist this is a fact. This is probably the easiest of all so called para normal to explain the only people who believe this has
never bothered to even look in to it or just choose to believe because it fits there theories of life.
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 05:58 PM by trueforger
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These are HUGE efforts,not CONCEPTS.This is not a spray paint work on a wall,consisting of less than a half hour.If you can explain ONE of these not
just say ,"Oh this is easy,it's a circle..."Like where did the pattern start?"
I deconstruct objects in my art field all the time,trying to improve efficiency.Ya always start somewhere.Like drawing a circle or an oval,numeral for
'0'.Most people do it the same way each time.I learned long ago not to do that,but I always look.Where do these circles start?Can you say for
certain?
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 06:31 PM by Exopolitico
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Originally posted by MacATK18
Once Once:
your assertion:
"The crop circle took three phases to create because it is human made and it took them a long time"
is not based on the fact that it took 9 days to create. Your assertion is based on your preconceived notions on the matter, and this is BLATANTLY
obvious to everyone. And here's why:
are you an alien possessing the knowledge of crop circle creation and processes? likewise are you a person involved in their creation? IF you answered
NO to these questions then your ASSERTION is based on YOUR ESTIMATIONS and not EXPERT ANALYSIS or TANGIBLE EVIDENCE, IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE.
HOW can you make such an assertion knowing nothing of the processes involved? You can't. No one can.
I have to go or I would refute all your assertions. More later..
Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one who shares the same thought process.
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 09:03 PM by Jacqua
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Originally posted by 0nce 0nce
...and now I can say "I TOLD YOU SO".
Once~once my friend, your need to be RIGHT, is almost demonic in its intensity, bordering on scary ...
Okay.... you are right!.. completely right!... there ARE crop circles that are man-made, however, I hate to have to tell you that we knew that all
along...
its just that 'some' are not
we have a little bit of both.... is that okay with you ...
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 09:47 PM by Manjushri Bodhisattva
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The fact that this took 3 different stages to create, points to it being man made. If aliens have some "powerful crop circle making
technology" then why did it take them 9 days to create this? Why did it take them three different stages? Why didn't the farmer set up a
camera after the first 2 stages?
It did not "Take" 3 Stages... It was Presented in 3 Stages... Major Difference...
As to the Farmer... Why would they... That area has several Crop Circles every year and yes the locals report seeing "strange lights" in the sky and
hearing "strange noises"... It is normal to them now, so why film it... They already Know and Believe with no need of Proof. They have seen the
Proof with their own eyes...
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 09:59 PM by Gweedy
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Personal question...are you very religious? I'm just curious because you say you fear nothing except god.
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 10:00 PM by kawaii
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*Yawns*
IF you ignores all the data on CC scientific research plus you have never been to the field = YES! all CC are man made / stone wallabies make them

LMAO
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