I only have 5 1/2 years till i can go on medicare.
Till then i will keep going to the VA. then i will use my medicare at the VA and have to pay nothing even then.

The government would provide subsidies for the poor and many middle-class families,

How poor i only get $985 a month disability.

I wonder how the government will get the illegals to pay for insurance.
I don' believe Americans should have to pay taxes for the illegals to get subsidies for insurance.

This should be right up GOP alley.

After the health insurance legislation goes through, you have a choice of private or gov't health insurance. Or you can get subsidized. (like the Mitt plan)

But if you choose none of these options, you get fined 1k.

The cost of hospitlization for the uninsured each year to taxpayers is 48 billion, or 1100 a person.

Now the GOP here are usually the first to gripe against socialist medicine because they don't feel their tax dollars should cover other people.

But guess what, your already paying for those who need hospitalization when they don't have insurance.

What the government is doing is recruiting costs of those who use the system who are not insured and can't pay. But now they have to pay. I thought that was every GOP dream.

No idea myself, from personal experience I know my employer will probably take the fines rather than deal with a $300 to $400 copay each month for insurance that doesn't cover dental or optical and had a $150 deductible last time I checked

Essentially, the government is going to charge you for exisiting. There are many people who choose not to have health coverage, and that should be their right.

If they fine me, I will pay them with my own currency that I deem has value.


It doesn't matter if you can't afford it. You can't afford anything now, hasn't stopped money from pouring out of your accounts like there's no tomorrow.

They'll stop when you have just enough money to by water and bread. The rest of your "luxuries" will be provided my IMF subsidized programs paid for by you in bi weekly installments.

You can view it as a financial "smart meter' , the State can shut off any one of your necessities at will if you fail to pay your bills.



Oh and forget about being able to register your car, or get a driver's license without your proof of health insurance.

This is a Global resolution that isn't targeted at "fat and happy" Americans who want to hold on to their SUV's and Credit cards. So don't expect anything to come down the pipe aimed at making your life better.


You are a money giving cow, when you get too old or fall off the tree, you are easily replaced.

I talked about this with my manager at work yesterday..he's teloing me, this si government subsidised. In other words, this health insurance scam.wont cost $400 a month... HE also says, its agood idea, because lots of people go to the hospitol, get billed, then skip town, dont pay, ect. HE thinks ths is why this health insurance crap problem has started. Hospitols are loosing money, and thier tried of people skimping out on the bill...especially when its someone who has NO insurace, acks up a $80,000 bill or more. Yes, tehy may put a lean on that persons home, for example, but even thier home may not be enough to pay off the full debt...

Government subsidised..the governemnt will ensure, i guess those of us enlisted, by law now, Match us so to speak... i dotn know how true this is, but wnated to throw this in the convo. Government knows not everyone can afford health insurance, hence forth, the subsidise.

People that can't afford health care can somehow afford government fines?

Well, I know I cannot afford either!! I just hate looking at what the future looks like in the US for folks like myslef. I live with my 75 yr old mom - so that we both can live somewhat comfortably. But I only bring in around $400 every 2 weeks and pay the utility bills and food each month. Mom pays the rent. Should something happen to either one of us - we would be screwed!!

I have major medical issues that just do not get adequent treatment because of no insurance and they only get worse with time. If I could get medical insurance for the price I get car insurance for ($68/monthly) ok. But that is not possible!!

I do not know what I will end up doing when all this goes into effect. Disappearing seems to be a real option. Hell, if something would happen to my mom, I cannot even afford an apartment on what I am making!!

It all just makes me shake my head in disbelief.........



[edit on 7/4/2009 by Champagne]