When it comes to Jesus I notice it's really rare that anyone ever tries to debunk the things he says as being bad. It's always about did he exist
and other things around or in the bible.
But I disagree on the bible being the word of god. The word of god is the word in which those who wrote things would hear. And that word is not
a written language or a language of men. It is understanding. Understanding is how the father gives, and man can not give to each other in this
way. What we can do however, is try to express the understandings we are given. And that is what the bible is, an expression of true
understanding.
Proverbs 8
6Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.
7For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
8All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
9They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
Proverbs 9
9Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.
10The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
Fear actually means Respect, but I think the point is basically the same either way.
I like the bible alot, but it needs to be put in it's proper place. It is not the authority, and men are not to make such authorities of themselves
either. Because when you are authority, then the people are expected to accept what they say as truth, or in the case of the bible, they are expected
to accept what the bible says is true. Now, this may seem well and good on the outside, however there is a difference between accepting and
understanding. Anyone can accept that 1+1=2, repeat it perfectly because authority told them so. But only the man who understands can add, see
beyond the single expression and apply that to his life. Thus, it's all about the understanding, and not the literal word.
When we build a house, we put the foundation at the bottom and the roof at the top. If we put the foundation above the roof, then the house will
fall. Not because either of those were wrong and don't belong in a house, but because they were not put in their proper places, and as a result they
were unable to do their proper job.
Matthew 7
28And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
29For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.
Scribes are those that write scripture. The people are the authority, not the scripture. So when you say the bible is the word of god and put it
into authority, you are doing so in error.
Why are the people the authority? Because the father is within. That means that the father who is all knowing can be found within the person.
As Jesus says - You already know. But we are taught to accept external things from men as the truth, rather than trusting that which is within us.
And this causes confusion. We doubt ourselves, we doubt the father within us, and we look to other men for answers. When the true answers will be
found within. And when they are found within, it's not like finding a book, it's not specific words, it is pure understanding. That
understanding is universal and available to all.
Thus why so many of those religions you mention can see the truth in Jesus. They may have different ways of expressing that understanding, but when
you see wisdom and understanding, you can bet the father is near. No matter what the culture is. When you see people going against "Jesus",
it's almost always in terms of what I mentioned above, never on the understanding he gives. They can not touch that.
[edit on 7/2/2009 by badmedia]