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Topic started on 2-7-2009 @ 10:15 AM by ElectricUniverse

North Korean Rocket Capable Of Hitting Half The U.S: Scientists


www.bernama.com
Quoting MIT professor Theodore Postol and a physicist at the Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) David Wright, South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported Wednesday that the rocket could fly even further as of over 10,000 kilometres, if the rocket is turned into a missile. "We estimate that it could have a range of 10,000-10,500 kilometers, allowing it to reach Alaska, Hawaii, and roughly half of the lower 48 states," they said in an article posted this week on the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
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reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 10:38 AM by Solomons
reply to post by Kevin_X2



Ahmadinejad is not a dictator,anyway.Just because they think it could travel that far doesn't mean it actually *can*..plus N.Korea isn't stupid enough to launch a missile at America,it would be shot down before it makes it anywhere near the coast,North korea knows this and knows what the retaliation will be.And im pretty sure with American spy satellites they already know about most of N.Koreas infamous vast tunnel systems and bunkers in the mountains etc.

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reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 10:40 AM by dariousg
reply to post by ElectricUniverse



This is a bunch of F'ing mind washing propoganda hogwash. Period. It's just freaking amazing how they were hardly able to hit Hawaii, if that, just last month and now they can wipe out half of the U.S.

Hmmmm, wonder why that is? Oh, so we can have ourselves another little war. Have the keep the MIC going strong or their money will dry up.

Joke!



reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 11:24 AM by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by WestPoint23




You are pretty much claiming, that nomatter how many times an enemy has tried, just because of some past failures, that it will fail again.

No offense, but I find that sort of attitude as being a bit naive, and simply underestimating an enemy just because of some past failures.

Underestimating enemies in the history of mankind has cost many nations the lives of many people, and even their entire civilization.

Anyway, here is an excerpt from the Union of Concerned Scientists about the Unha-2 platform, which is different from the previous platforms used by NK to launch their missiles.

Analysis of the Unha-2. Combining this information with results of analyses of past tests and computer modeling of the launcher allows us to develop a fairly detailed understanding of the Unha-2. While some uncertainties in missile parameters remain, calculations using this model of the launcher are consistent with all of the known data about the launch and show that it could have placed a satellite with a mass of a few hundred kilograms into orbit at about an altitude of 500 kilometers.

The Unha-2 launcher was expected to be a three-stage variant of the Taepodong-2 missile that North Korea began developing in the 1990s but has never successfully launched. We conclude from our analysis that the second and third stages of the launcher represent significantly more advanced technology than North Korea has launched in the past. We believe that its extremely unlikely that these technologies were indigenously produced by North Korea.

Pyongyang has released a video showing the launcher shortly before and during launch; these pictures allowed us to determine the relative sizes of the launcher's stages. Assuming the first-stage diameter is 2.4 meters, which is the diameter that has long been discussed for the first stage of the Taepodong-2 missile, fixes the rest of the dimensions. These are shown here PDF. Based on the dimensions of the stages, we can estimate their masses using estimates of the structure mass and the density of the propellant.

Overall, the launcher has a length of roughly 30 meters and a mass of 80-85 metric tons. We believe the first stage uses a cluster of four Nodong engines housed in a single missile casing and sharing a common fuel tank. The Nodong engine is essentially a scaled-up version of the engine used in the Soviet Scud-B missile. This engine is likely of Russian origin.

www.thebulletin.org...

Here is the entire pdf. research article form the Union of Concerned Scientists.
www.ucsusa.org...

Underestimating an enemy is always dangerous. More so when such an enemy is as crazy as Kim, and has the help of other countries, such as Russia, and China, which are "enemies", and not friends like they claim of the U.S.



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reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 11:35 AM by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by apacheman




?? You are kidding right?.... Oh it doesn't matter if they nuke part of the U.S. just let them nuke us, and if maybe 200,000 or more Americans are murdered.... Let's just drop some non-nuclear missiles "just to save face"....

What the hell is wrong with you?....

BTW, I am not advising to invade with ground troops NK, but rather we should take seriously taking out their capability to launch these missiles, and even destroy their nuclear weapons reactors befrore they use them to make more nuclear weapons, and use them against us, or even against Japan.

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reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 11:43 AM by silo13
reply to post by apacheman

A couple of nukes would hurt, but would cause no real damage to the US as a whole.


I can’t even believe I’m reading those words.

Are you serious?

Are you deranged?? (Question not an accusation)...??

A couple a nukes wouldn’t *hurt* or cause *real damage*???

Oh my God.


reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 11:44 AM by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by silo13




What in the world is the difference if this had come out a couple months ago?....

What makes this less believable that it came out now, and not 2 months ago?....

This report is not from TPTB, but from the Union of Concerned Scientists, which is a non-profit science advocacy group.

Some of the smartest scientists in the U.S. are part of this group..

The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) is a nonprofit science advocacy group based in the United States. The UCS membership includes many private citizens in addition to professional scientists. Emeritus Professor Kurt Gottfried, a former senior staffer at CERN, currently chairs the UCS Board of Directors.
The Union of Concerned Scientists was founded in 1969 by faculty and students of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, located in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Scientists formed the organization to "initiate a critical and continuing examination of governmental policy in areas where science and technology are of actual or potential significance" and "devise means for turning research applications away from the present emphasis on military technology toward the solution of pressing environmental and social problems."[2] The organization employs scientists, economists, engineers engaged in environmental and security issues, as well as executive and support staff.

en.wikipedia.org...

Since this is NOT comming from TPTB, have you thought about the possibility that TPTB know about this and wanted to keep it secret until an atomic weapon was launched and hit part of the U.S. to implement more of their Socialist Dictatorship plan?....


reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 11:46 AM by miasria
Originally posted by dariousg
reply to
post by ElectricUniverse

Hmmmm, wonder why that is? Oh, so we can have ourselves another little war. Have the keep the MIC going strong or their money will dry up.

Joke!


dariousg is smart...
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