Originally posted by franspeakfree
I don't know what to think of this, all I can say if this is real then we have got alot to think about. Its so easy just to dismiss it without looking into the fact that it COULD be true.

The more I am researching about all this the bleaker it becomes, and I can understand why people want to close their eyes and continue paying their taxes and slaving away to TPTB but what if...........

Thanks for this interesting thread and vids franspeakfree, strrd and flggd.

I answer your questions one by one in order you can see how I think of it all.

Originally posted by franspeakfree
What if we are not alone

We are not alone now, and we never where.
The evidence for that is overwhelming in my opinion.

Originally posted by franspeakfree
What if there is a secret war going on in front of our very own eyes

It looks indeed to me that there is some sort of battle [secret war] going on between certain to us malevolent and benevolent ET groups in where we humans are strongly involved.

Originally posted by franspeakfree
What if there is a plan to enslave humanity (again)

If the plan is to enslave humanity I really don’t know.

Originally posted by franspeakfree
What if the war in Iraq was really an agenda to wipe out the bloodlines?

I don’t think that is the case, I think that one important reason for that war has indeed something to do with certain alien related items and highly possible even stargate technology.

Perhaps you will find this interview with Jim Marss on projectcamelot interesting.

JM: And so, the question is, why am I talking about The Fourth Reich at a UFO Congress? And I think the answer is because people who disregard the subject of UFOs and who just write that off as just total fantasy and lunacy; they will never, ever, be able to figure out what’s truly happening in the world because they’re tossing out a big piece of the puzzle. It’s all part of the same big mosaic and you have to put all these pieces together to figure out what’s going on.

Just as a “for instance”: I truly believe that one of the main reasons for our precipitous invasion of Iraq was to make a beeline for Baghdad, and use a mob scene as a cover, for a very concerted effort to loot the Iraqi National Museum. What were they after? They were after newly discovered artifacts, tablets, scrolls and such that were being found in the ancient Sumerian cities of Uruk and some of these other places by French and German archaeological teams -- interestingly enough, the two countries who were most opposed to our entry into Iraq.

And what was taken? Very possibly knowledge of ancient energy manipulation technology. And this gets into anti-gravity and a bunch of weird and exotic technologies that conventional science would laugh at. But then, when you really study the issue, you find that these technologies have been worked on since at least World War II and have been kept under very ultra-secret classification programs ever since, because this is our leading edge technology.

So, you can see how it all ties together; Ancient history, UFOs, secret societies, the world government. It’s all part of the same big ball of wax, and unless you back off and take that broad overview and study a wide variety of topics, you’re never going to figure out what’s going on.

In the recent interview, Burisch argues that stargate technology basically allows its users to physically enter or move material through time and into different time streams. Burisch claims that artificial stargates are instruments that tap into 'natural stargates' in order to operate. He believes there are approximately 50 artificial stargates present on the planet with an undisclosed number of natural stargates.

He argues that information for the development of artificial stargates came from 'cylinder seals' extracted from Iraq from both the first (1991) and second (2003) Gulf War military interventions by the US and its allies. The cylinder seals contain extraterrestrial information given to the ancient Sumerians who faithfully replicated this information on cuneiform texts. Burisch's information gives plausibility to the thesis that U.S. military intervention into Iraq was motivated by the desire to discover and control stargate technology.

At least one other recent whistleblower interviewed by the Project Camelot team, who uses the pseudonym 'Henry Deacon', claims that Burisch's information on stargates is correct

(projectcamelot.org... ).

Burisch claims that an offshoot of stargate technology is Project Looking Glass, a window into different time lines. He claims that Looking Glass technology was reverse engineered from artificial stargates. Burisch argues that Looking Glass technologies give the user a direct view into different probabilities of future events or different time streams. So while stargate technology enables one to travel or send material back and forth in time, Looking Glass enables one to view probable future events or what is occurring in a different time stream.
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www.exopolitics.org...


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Originally posted by walsbg22
reply to post by franspeakfree

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I found that the same way you found OBR. What makes your source better than mine. And I also have more than one source, you gave me one.

Originally posted by walsbg22

1. 1.5 Million dead in Iraq at time of video

You sure? Here is toll for civilians from multiple sources:

Iraq Body Count March 19, 2003 - August 22, 2008 86,661 - 94,558
Iraq Coalition Casualty Count April 28, 2005 - August 22, 2008 43,099
Brookings Iraq Index May 2003 - August 14, 2008 113,616
The Associated Press April 2005 - February 13, 2008 34,832 dead 40,174 wounded
The Iraq Family Health Study (the “WHO study”) March 2003 - June 2006 151,000
The Lancet, “Mortality after the 2003 Invasion of Iraq” March 19, 2003 - July 31, 2006 426,369

Also visit: www.iraqbodycount.org...

You said this:

Originally posted by franspeakfree
reply to post by walsbg22

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This is exactly what I am talking about, if you dig deeper and do your own research in to these matters and do not rely on what you are being fed you will find out the truth.

Bearing in mind this is from 2008. (I am sure others have perished in the last 7 months)

On 28 January 2008, ORB published an update based on additional work carried out in rural areas of Iraq. Some 600 additional interviews were undertaken and as a result of this the death estimate was revised to 1,033,000 with a given range of 946,000 to 1,120,000.[4]

ORB reports that it has been "tracking public opinion in Iraq since 2005."[1]

Link to source

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand
reply to post by franspeakfree

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If alien life existed and is as advanced as would need be to travel here then I have only one question.

Why would they need to work with the Government, meaning any Government, to disclose themselves to the public.

I just can't buy that. They can materialize out of thin air but require an ok to do what they will? They can observe you telepathically, but they need a "go ahead" from Obama? Sounds very Hollywood to me, then again, Hollywood was built for that.

Originally posted by win 52
reply to post by franspeakfree

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Hey fran.... they told me about a treaty that has ended. They kept their end of the bargain, but I understood we didn't.

Do you have a link to that treaty?