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Ancient Greece vrs Modern USA

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posted on Jul, 2 2009 @ 03:34 AM
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Greece - From 800 BC - 400 BC population increases 10 fold (From < 1 million to > 10 million)
USA - From 1600 AD - 2000 AD population increases 10,000 fold (From < 50,000 to > 300 million)

Greece - Expanded by colonization
USA - Expanded by colonization

Greece - Several hundred independant city states represented at a central location
USA - 50 or less states and territories represented at a central location

Greece - Rich landowners fully protected by the law
USA - Rich landowners fully protected by the law

Greece - Class mobility allowed
USA - Class mobility allowed

Greece - Slaves kept in thier place by controlling the flow of information and preventing them from organizing
USA - Wage-slaves kept in thier place by controlling the flow of information and preventing them from organizing

Greece - Wealthy families sent thier children to private schools where they learned music, athletics, reading, math and good citizenship. Some public school was available.
USA - Wealthy families send thier children to private schools where they learn music, athletics, reading, math and world citizenship. Some public school is available.

Greece - Workers earned 3X the wages of non-greecians.
USA - Workers earn 10X the wages of non-americans.

Greece - Large numbers of citizen soldiers.
USA - Large number of professional soldiers.

Greece - Philosophy of the time led most people to ask questions and to be inquisitive.
USA - Philosophy leads most people to accept the status quo as being the best answer. Few people ask questions.

Greece - Most people feel connected through a common belief in the same gods.
USA - Expieriencing a dysfunctional theological breakdown in a common belief of a god.

What conclusions can you draw from this comparision?

[edit on 2-7-2009 by In nothing we trust]




posted on Jul, 2 2009 @ 03:56 AM
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Simple, life is in the fast lane. And the culture is very young. And bad.



posted on Jul, 2 2009 @ 06:14 AM
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I think some of those are sort of stretching.



Greece - Expanded by colonization
USA - Expanded by colonization

Well, the initial Grecians were Greeks. The initial Americans were supplanted by the English colonists, who later rebelled against England.
They then spread along the land, meaning US was formed much as any country has been formed.



Greece - Several hundred independant city states represented at a central location
USA - 50 or less states and territories represented at a central location


Makes sense, since our government was designed based on the democracy system invented by the Greeks.



Greece - Class mobility allowed
USA - Class mobility allowed


In a general sense, however the actual process were different.



Greece - Slaves kept in thier place by controlling the flow of information and preventing them from organizing
USA - Wage-slaves kept in thier place by controlling the flow of information and preventing them from organizing


People in the States organize pretty often, hold rallies, ect. And this matter is much more complicated than you are attmempting ot present it, and I'm going to sleep in ten minutes, so maybe later.



Greece - Large numbers of citizen soldiers.
USA - Large number of professional soldiers.


Greeks were pressed into service, something that was expectd from all young men.
Youth in the states choose their career path, with volunteers enlisting.




What conclusions can you draw from this comparision?



That someone who doesn't fully understand the subjects they are attempting to discuss is trying to simply problems they don't fully understand.



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