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yeah. 7/7 was an inside job, too.

the subway car had a hole ripped upwards from underneath the car. the bomb was not in the subway car. it was under.

see my signature.

Originally posted by dino1989

have you look at the evidence? they are very similar to 9/11 attacks

same coincidences all over again

The evidence from Spain refutes all the claims that the 9/11 and Madrid bombings were made by the U.S. government, or the government of Spain...

Authorities in Madrid found evidence, and convicted Osama Bin Laden and several other Islamic terrorists for the 9/11 attacks... Other Islamic extremists were found to be behind the Madrid bombings...

Obviously you are the one who hasn't looked at the evidence....

As for this topic?... A terrorist CLAIMS that MI5 officers said they were going to rape his wife... Oh boy...no wonder some people are so naive...

Yes, there are Islamic terrorists that only wanty to kill innocent westerners, despite the claims of some to the contrary...



[edit on 2-7-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

If people keep making up stupid stories the truth will get mixed up with the stupid claims, and exagerations.

A terrorist making claims that "MI4 officers said they were going to rape his wife if he didn't confess" is no evidence at all, but just CLAIMS from a terrorist.



[edit on 2-7-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

If we hadn't been using torture inthe first place, this guy could never have used this excuse and been believed. We should never resort to torture no matter what.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
If we hadn't been using torture inthe first place, this guy could never have used this excuse and been believed. We should never resort to torture no matter what.

They would still use that excuse.

All it takes is them putting doubt in our minds and they have succeded.

Originally posted by jd140

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
If we hadn't been using torture inthe first place, this guy could never have used this excuse and been believed. We should never resort to torture no matter what.

They would still use that excuse.

All it takes is them putting doubt in our minds and they have succeded.

But we would be less inclined to believe, if we weren't already aware that we have been torturing left right and center

Sorry, going to have to say complete bollocks to this whole story and whether 7/7 was a conspiracy is irrelevant.

This person has absolutely no corrobative evidence whatsoever, he was arrested in Bangladesh and it was Bangladesh officials who interrogated him and allegedly threatened to rape his wife, he claims that MI5 officers simply left the room when he was tortured.

The headline is sensationalist #e!

His allegations are unprovable and designed to upset the sensibilities of the liberal PC brigade.

Absolutely pathetic and that a British paper should print such a story, in such a manner, with NO supportive evidence is disgraceful.

On a slightly different tack, bearing in mind that these people are quite prepared to murder up to thousands of innocent women and children, how are we supposed to question these terrorists?
Ask them nicely to tell us the truth?
Remind them that it's not nice to lie? (not true in Islam, they are allowed to take whatever means possible to spread their barbaric religion).
Tickle their feet?
Give them chinese burns? (suppose even this would be assault).
Frown at them and pull nasty faces?

FFS get real, these are religous fanatics determined to do anything in their effort to impose Islam upon us all, they are willing to blow themselves up, surely even the most wishy washy, do-gooding, PC driven Muslim apologist can see that a certain amount of threat and terror must be present when questioning these people.
I don't agree with some of the more extreme stories we have heard but come on, how do you expect us to extract any sort of worthwhile information from these people?

"where's the proof?" isn't that always the case. i'm on my laptop typing this.....but where's the proof? since i can't provide it, it must not have happened but if it didn't happen how did these words get here?

9/11 was a government sponsored exercise to get America and it's allies into the middle east while carrying popular public opinion for the war. 7/7 on the other hand, was a government sponsored exercise to reassert that public opinion when we all began to get fed up seeing our soldiers coming home in body bags.
It seems the powers that be decided to use the exact same type of plan for both events.

FEMA was at the ready in New York on 9/11.
Powers ambulances and fire engines were parked outside the stations at the ready on 7/7.

Americas air defence was away playing war games on 9/11.
The UKs top terrorist specialists and best police officers where away in Scotland at the G8.

To convince the public the 9/11 planes were flown by terrorists they left a perfectly preserved passport on top of rubble.
In London they did the same with driving licenses!

Watching the events unfold in New York on 9/11 was Rudolph Guliane.
Watching events unfold in London on 7/7 was Rudolph Guliane! (spelling?)

After 9/11 a media frenzy begins attacking muslims.
After 7/7 a media frenzy begins attacking muslims.

I could go on. . .
We're going to have to get use to it I'm afraid. The government, backed by the media, is going to continue claiming that muslims are planning the west's down fall, while they bomb Afghanistan and plan further wars in the middle east. Until they make a blinding mistake which even those who meekly except the governments lies can clearly see, we are going to go on having these kind of debates.