Idiocracy the future?, page 1
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 03:11 PM by Kevin_X2
I remember seeing that movie when i was a kid and thinking the same thing. Interesting concept, but a bit of an exaduration. There is actually alot of factual basis to the dumbing down of america, and most of all the american education system. Heres a table from the international education statistic center that speaks for itself:




its a vector-mapped image so full-size the browser for an easier read. I am canadian and have been aware of this phenomenon for some time as canadian papers love all that self-righteous Canadian noise.

It seems like Americans are either inherently dumb or the government is shoving a stick down the throte of the grade-school system. What purpose does having a dumb country serve? now that i have no idea

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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 03:23 PM by Zetetic_of_Truth
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Thanks for that table, very interesting. Looks like Australia, Canada, Finland, and New Zealand have the higher scores. America actually seems to be around the averages. Mexico and Brazil by far seem to be the worst.
Yes agreed it angers me greatly in seeing a country go in the wrong direction. One thinks that the government would not want to help in the dumbing down of its country, but who knows what goes on at the top pedestals?!?!

Zetetic_of_Truth


reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 04:01 PM by fraterormus
As long as a society caters to the lowest common denominator, then absolutely, a future such as the one in Idiocracy is inevitable.

Truth be told, almost all cultures throughout history have been thus.

In Elizabethan England, English society had degraded to illiterate masses who wanted nothing more than to be entertained. However, almost five centuries later we don't remember the idiotic masses, but the few shining lights that rose above those masses...Shakespeare, Bacon, Marlowe, Spencer, Dee, Raleigh, etc. These few men of learning, of intelligence, and strong moral character, gave birth to a Golden Age of Reason, Art, Language, Literature, and Science. It is because of these rare exceptions to the masses that England laid a claim to the New World, and the stage for our form of government was cast when Bacon penned his "The New Atlantis".

Culture may be defined by the many, but History is defined by the achievements of the few.

I once had an Archaeology Professor who was a Rabbi. He equated this concept of the few who live truly historic lives compared to the masses that just toil their day in and day out to the Torah. He would tell me "Do you know how many times Yehovah decided he was going to smite mankind in the Torah? Yet each of those times he changed his mind! All it took to change his mind each of those times was but one solitary person to redeem the rest of mankind in the eyes of Adonai. So long as one person is able to reach beyond what the rest of mankind is willing to strive for, then humanity will continue to be safe to live another epoch of time."

As the masses of the populace degenerate into deeper pits of idiocy and depravity, it only provides more opportunity for those of intellect and reason and learning to rise above and shine brighter still, just as a night without a moon allows the stars to stand out in greater contrast against the darkened sky.

So, let that be a lesson to you that if you fear Idiocracy from becoming prophetic! Worry not about the idiocy of the masses! Instead, take it upon yourself to strive for something greater and make some history, and maybe in the process give humankind another generation in which to live and learn, and maybe, just maybe, become better people in the process.


reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 04:47 PM by thisguyrighthere
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The only way to prevent it from happening is for people to make better decisions and have self respect.

Like the comic CoffinFeeder posted (which pretty spot on with some of these "holier than thou" types) social/developmental engineering should be avoided at all cost. A zealot taking Idiocracy too far could easily cross into Hitler territory. There's nothing worse than some self-righteous jackass working his way into a position of power just so he can mess with peoples lives as he sees fit.

The best thing you can do is be a good example for the people around you and teach your children well. Even then your kids will make their own decisions for better or worse. If I had a nickle for how many kids with ideal upbringings just one day turn "ghetto" and throw their lives away doing something stupid like selling crack or street racing I could afford to retire.

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