2008 was a turning point year, just like 1945, 1967 and 1989. The whole fabric of the modern world began to unravel, and we are seeing it now with all the revolutions and bankruptcies and everything else.

Is 2012 possibly a five-year long event that began last year and will only end in December 2012?

Will we see the end of nation-states and a return to city-states? When this happens, will the Aliens finally come and make clear their presence?

According to my calendar 2012 will start just after 31/12/2011.

honey...2012 is a year. alright? it doesnt start until it gets here.

Hmmmm ... I mean 2012 as an event, not as the year itself.

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2012 has nothing to do with anything thats happening right now. That is, unless the theory that we need to be in a negative/positive vibration to ascend or remain at our current dimensional level, respectively, has any merrit.

However, what you are misinterpreting as the beginning of the end is really just the end of the beggining. We are about to enter a new age of global po
litics, and thus it will most certainly feel like the end of the world to some.

I assure you, what is happening now has very little, if anything, to do with a myan calender. The world changes in fundamental ways all the time. Its trying to see it simply as a part of life, as opposed to investing religious ideals into it, that humans have a hard time doing.

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Originally posted by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest
honey...2012 is a year. alright? it doesnt start until it gets here.

Think he means the beggining of the ascension process, or the beggining of the end before the new beggining (if that makes sense) or whatever else you believe is happening/going to happen.

Personally i think it starts at different dates for different people or maybe groups of people like waves.

Im not sure, i just "know" that everything is slowly changing even now, and i feel it will only get faster and faster until we dont know what the heck is going on.

Whatever is going to happen is well on its way.

Dont doubt, ever.

K, here it is , 1998 I think is the start of the Creation of the Future, this oppertunety ends october 28th 2011...
After that point, our faith is sealed..

That is why the Govt. are numbing down the people ..
fluoride and aspartme, chemtrails ,. Etc. List goes on. DePopulation, less people to get together and Co-Create, and that is why the internet is going down, they do not want people getting together an be a part of the future..

The Ufo Disclosure ? Ok, sweet, the USA govt. Disclose and every human on the planet forgets every thing, in the meantime, the NWO are sitting in Montauk chairs amplifying their Creation....

They are Co-Creating thier World and we are crying over M.J..
Why do you think all these disaster are happening, ? Time out side the clock..
Its ticking and no one sees it !!!

Can you Afford to gamble our existence on this ??

Actually people the date 2012 on our calendar is based off of the flawed Gregorian calender. A few scholars believe that we could be off by a few years give or take because of the accuracy of the Mayan numbering system. So it is very plausible to think that 2008 could have actually been the beginning of the "2012" events.