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Originally posted by Totakeke
God put it there because He can't force us to love Him; we have to do it willingly.
Originally posted by Totakeke
reply to post by contemplator
God isn't sadistic, He is loving and just.
Okay, but he could have given us some reason to love him. And, if the threat of eternal hell ain't some kind of force, manipulation, then I don't know what is. Heck, not even I would condemn my children to eternal hell if they chose to not LOVE me. Love ME? What an egotistical megalomaniac deity. "Love me, OR ELSE!" Yeah, lol, sure, if you say so, lol. All I have to do is look around at all the little children in those poverty nations to realize that your god apparently doesn't love us!
Ya know, what I really want to know is do you people that preach this dogma really think all that hogwash is actually true? I mean, ya'll do just call it a belief, and a belief does not mean it's true .. so, what's the deal here? Just WHY do you all believe in all that nonsense? It all sounds so disturbingly disgusting. And, after all, the bible is it's just a dang book. How do you know that you all aren't worshiping some kind of false deity, one invented by egotistical man and his egotistical church empires? How do you know you're not being fooled? Have you ever thought to deprogram yourselves of this nonsense and use your own minds to discover the truth, instead of inheriting these hand-me-down primitive and unbelievable stories, mere beliefs? Do you believe everything someone tells you, and if not, why believe in such unbelievable egotistical nonsense?
Really, what if the bible god IS a grand deception, and the biblical god is one of those false idols? And, with so many different religious, each with their own version of god (some 4000+ to date), how do you know you are worshiping the correct one? Only one of those 4000+ religions could possibly be correct, at most, and if 3999 are wrong, why not all 4000 of them? Does one really need a bible to find and know the real god? Which book of dogma is the real deal? Seriously, what if you all are being deceived by the evil churches in the world? Remember 3999 of them religions are dead wrong. How do you know you're hanging with the right religion and their version of god?
Originally posted by scared angel
Without free will we would just be robots, that means that some of us decide to act in such a way as to cause harm to others.
But if you take away free will, then we are nolonger individuals and we become nothing more than a collective of beings doing what they have been programmed to do ! Which to me is even more scary !!!
Originally posted by Divinorumus
Ah, but you all ARE programmed robots. As I said in an earlier post, consider this:
Had any of you American flag waving Christians been swapped at birth with a baby born to a Muslim extremest, you would TODAY be yelling death to the infidels, death to the Christians.