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Originally posted by dgtempe
I never post about religion. I grew up Catholic but i dont know much about religion.
I am wondering, instead of sending us fire and brimstone, why doesn't a compassionate God intervene in a way that will not kill, men women and children, a planet that will hit and blow us out of orbit, and horrible things like that???
He made us, damn it. Why did he make us FLAWED. Its HIS fault.
There's nothing compassionate here that i can see.
Thus Saint Macarius writes, "And as the kingdom of darkness, and sin, are hidden in the soul until the Day of Resurrection,
when the bodies also of sinners shall be covered with the darkness that is now hidden in the soul,
so also the Kingdom of Light,
and the Heavenly Image,
now mystically enlighten the soul, and reign in the soul of the saints, but are hidden from the eyes of men... until the Day of Resurrection; but then the body also shall be covered and glorified with the Light of the Lord, which is now in the man's soul [from this earthly life], that the body also may reign with the soul which from now receives the Kingdom of Christ and rests and is enlightened with eternal light" (Homily 2).
River of Fire~
Originally posted by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest
wow...no one has yet to answer my question regarding why we need to be tested and/or why we suffer.
if theres no suffering in heaven, then all of it here on earth was in vain.
please someone try to give me a reasonable answer and not just an answer that is basically a religious fortune cookie fortune.
for example, that long "A good father..." one.
a good father would not lock his child in the basement and let a psychopath torture the child for all eternity for not loving the father enough.
Originally posted by tinfoilman
reply to post by '___'eviant
Yes we have suffering in the world because of our ignorance and the consequences of our bad choices.
For example we have pain and die because our medical science is not perfect. Some have nothing because people who have everything choose to be greedy and take all that they can.
But look how far our science has come! Look how much more we know about our universe! Look at all the stuff we know that we would not have had God not given us the decision to eat from the "tree of knowledge". Without it we'd still just be clueless with no thought of our own.
As I said, we can't deny we agree with God's decision when we ourselves go to other countries like my country has done in Iraq and try to give them democracy. We believe choice is better for people because with the ability to suffer from our bad decisions we learn. We get better. We adapt. We become smarter. We evolve spiritually instead of just physically.
But I said that's what death is for. So one day you can leave this physical world after you've done your part and have your chance to live with God without suffering too.
Why would God send us out into the mean mean world all by ourselves? Well, do you send your children to school to learn or do you yourself keep them locked up in a closet where they could never be harmed on the playground?
Yet again we ask why God did what he did and then we continually turn around and do the exact same things with our own children. Before asking why God did what he did simply ask yourself why you do what you do.
Why trick us into it? I don't know if he did. I don't know what the serpent was. We could have a whole nother thread about what exactly the serpent was. It wasn't really a trick though. We were given both sides. We were warned to not eat from the tree by the party on the left and told to eat it by the party on the right. It was up to us to make the decision. But we had to learn there are consequences to our decisions and it's those consequences that make us better people.
[edit on 1-7-2009 by tinfoilman]
[edit on 1-7-2009 by tinfoilman]