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Originally posted by lifecitizen
Anyhooo, like most of Christianity the story of the flood was plagurised from the Sumerians who were the first to tell the story of a 'great flood'
Later we have the Epic of Gilgamesh from the Babylonians- surprise surprise both tales are almost identical to the Bibles Noah tale.
Originally posted by nomorecruelty
God intervenes when He sees fit -
it's His world after all.
And we, regardless of what we choose to believe, are His children, His creation.
Again, if life and the world ran smoothly with no problems, who would you turn to - yourself and the world, that's what - just like mankind is doing now. Thinking "he" or "she" can solve their own problems by themselves.
He is our creator and wants us to seek Him and His laws. For our own salvation - but again, all of us make our own choice on whether we choose to believe, or not believe.
Originally posted by nomorecruelty
Why do people continue to think that just because they choose to not believe in something/someone, it makes it non existent?
Originally posted by nomorecruelty
And if you don't believe in satan, you might want to dig a little deeper into who you are truly serving. Because if it isn't God, it's satan.
You say 'self' but that is exactly how satan wants people to think - that they are just fine without God in their lives. Looks like he has chalked up another 'victim'?
All I can do is pray that you'll find your way to the right path.
Originally posted by nomorecruelty
reply to post by jfj123
You aren't debating with me on this issue - you are debating with God and His scriptures.
Why 'some' people choose to denounce God is beyond me - especially given the consequences.
If you look at history from the very begining, that we know of, to now - you surely can't miss the steady decline in humans choosing 'self' over God. Or maybe you can.
Originally posted by nomorecruelty
reply to post by favouriteslave
"My" concrete proof would be abortions, homosexuality, adultery, murder, etc ........ for starters.
Those are all evil works of satan. He (satan) wants people to believe that we are here for self satisfaction - look up the definition of 'apathy'. Then take a hard look outside your living room window. Or car window. Or office window.
satan's goal is to create doubt in us - it appears he isn't having to work very hard with some people.
Everything that the Bible has predicted IS coming to pass - and will continue to. You can look up the proof in the Bible for yourself, and then match them, in detail, to what is happening today - and then debate yourself on why it's so accurate.
Originally posted by nomorecruelty
Why God Allows Pain & Suffering
This is the same former atheist, Lee Strobel, discussing why God allows pain and suffering.
Might be of interest to the thread readers -
Originally posted by nomorecruelty
reply to post by curiousaboutsky
Yep, I've taken them - and unless I'm mistaken, I haven't stated that 'my' way is the 'only way'. I will state that the Bible, and God, is the only way though.
I "have" stated my beliefs - and have repeatedly said, each of us make our own choices.
I don't post on ATS for debate - I post to share my views and beliefs.
If you want debate, perhaps you should engage someone else.