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Originally posted by T0by
This threads gotten way too religious for me, i'm ouuuuuuuta here!
Originally posted by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest
wow...no one has yet to answer my question regarding why we need to be tested and/or why we suffer.
if theres no suffering in heaven, then all of it here on earth was in vain.
Originally posted by Cygnific
You dont learn love by going true torture, abuse, you learn to hate! I believe in a creator of somekind, but the theory around it is a big scam.
Originally posted by the_sentinal
i haven't been to church in a while, i'm feeling guilty now. thanks DG for this thread
Originally posted by wylekat
reply to post by dgtempe
Lemme give you something none of the 'defenders' of that 2 bit hack of a deity CANNOT give you.
I lost a woman I loved dearly to another guy. I have been given the whole line, song and dance about 'free will!'- yet- I have tried for 20 YEARS to find a wife- and crap I cant even begin to explain happens each time I find someone. Prayer? DOES NOT WORK. I have prayed to be let loose from the hell of being alone- and all I have been greeted with is silence. It, however doesn't stop God from 'allowing' dreams about my ex g/f every so often. Vivid, lifelike dreams that make me wake up screaming. I have tried for more 'solid' answers to prayers- money to get my car fixed, and some to get my life back together. Guess what? I am left to suffer, as usual.
Now... I notice- if you have money, and a lot of family, you get whatever your dark little heart desires. Then you get to be called a "Christian" and drive a nice car to church. If you're poor, and drive a clunker, you're barely tolerated in their little rich clique. Women of God shun you. The guys make jokes behind your back. All the while, tho- to your face, you're told to hang in there, and 'stand'..
Here's a PERFECT example of what I mean. I was having an 'alone' day- and I mentioned it to the pastor about how tired I was of being alone, no family, no one at all. Pay attention:
He got into his big, fancy car with his family, looked me square in the eye, and said- AND I QUOTE: "Jesus never said it was easy" AND DROVE AWAY, LEAVING ME THERE. ALONE.
Some loving God I (used) to serve, huh? My landlord- Christian- stole me BLIND. Did he get away with it? The man's now retired, and doing cruises once a month! Know what I got? Disability, food stamps, and the ability to barely stay alive. My dream of a good, solid job I could truly enjoy? GONE. 24 YEARS of nonstop prayer of wanting to work at one place- and it's so shot fulla lead, it's no longer a dream, it's a F*ing PENCIL! My ex boss- wife, 12 kids, cash coming out his ears. Christian. Made 'gay' jokes at my expense. I liked his oldest daughter, she ripped me open like a med student on a cadaver. Anything I told her in confidence, got back to daddy for him to screw me with. Where was God? Off on his coffee break, I guess.
Oh- and to really top this crap cake with a diarrhea frosting- There was a period of time I got over my ex. I managed a trip to Disney one year- and guess who I run into... HER. Yup. Reopened every healed wound on a massive scale. Did any of the people who were Christians help? No. Did my ex boss make it worse? Oh, brother. (I made the mistake of telling his stupid daughter.) Where was God? I can tell you where he was. He was laughing his rear end off at the whole mess.
I recently did find someone- we really like each other- and AFTER we made our feeling known- she finds out her ex put her into foreclosure, and ends up massively sick ALL WITHIN A WEEK OF US MAKING OUR FEELINGS KNOWN. With. In. A. WEEK.
Originally posted by whatukno
Let me tell you about God. God doesn't know you. God doesn't care about you. God has an entire universe to run... Hes not sitting in heaven wondering if dgtempe is having a good life or not. Hell, he probably doesn't fully care whether or not the earth is rotating correctly.