I hereby nominate myself leader of the ATS American Revolution... (My speech before SHTF), page 3

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reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 07:25 AM by DOADOA

you have no idea what our reailty would be like if a revolution did go through. in this day and age it would be complete chaos. it will not be the kind of revolution our founding father fought in, no. in this one, the last man standing will be standing in ruins.

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 07:56 AM by scubagravy

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Typical Yank, Wanting to take on the world.

you say (Ladies and Gentlemen of ATS... My American Brothers & Sisters...). when are you going to realise that it was the U.S.A that started most of this debacle anyways. Dont hate me people, its your goverment that is to blame, but as you can plainly see that this mentality has rubbed off onto the common folk.

If i were you, my speech would be adressed to the world of ATS, because you and i both know that relying on only your countrymen hasnt got you very far in the past. When the SHTF your going to need numbers, after all its obvious we all need to harmonize in a way against racism, prejudice and bigotry etc to ultimately acheive this goal.

TPTB want exactly the opposite of this, so far they are winning. Desimilation is one of the best ways of breaking down your oponent, causing unrest between there ranks will destabilise the trust and the unity of between the people, people meaning us, their opponent.

If you typically feel that your alone in this, you are wrong my American Doomsday friend, im an australian, we too will fight, feeling a great part of the uprise that will come by the people, but i resent not being included in your quest to overide the controlling powers of those we detest.

I suggest America chews and swallows a bit of pride and realise that you CANNOT rule the world, you CANNOT save the world and ultimately need to stop thinking that you are superior to the rest.

Time to assimilate america....not obliterate.

Count me in god damn it ......................

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reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 08:03 AM by Amagnon

OP - I'm not an American and don't live in America - however, someone needs to step up and show some bravery - kudo's to you.

If I was there, yes I would work with you. I'm not - but I offer you moral support - and perhaps other types of support going forward if it's needed, in general to anyone who is in distress facing the scum.

The responses on this thread indicate how pitiful the opposition to the scum is - I wish you god speed, and hope you may find some who are not cowards or would rather look the other way. Denial is not a defense.

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 01:33 PM by Maj35t1cI2

I can't believe you're all gonna be cowards in the face of the NWO. Talk is cheap, DO SOMETHING! I live in Rockaway, NJ area code 07866 and I'll be more than happy to meet up with anyone and try to come up with a method of ending this bull!@#$ once and for all! My name is Mathew and I am not a number. I'm not afraid of the government. I dare them to kill me, do it, c'mon big brother! I've been reading these forums for a year now, and it's obvious noone is gonna do anything about this tragedy happening right in our own backyards. I WILL DO SOMETHING! Give me the opportunity, and the people who are willing to help. We can come up with something better than "grow organic vegetables" lol. I hate to compare real life to a movie, but V for Vendetta is what needs to happen in this country. We need to take it all back. ALL OF IT! Death to the NWO!

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 01:45 PM by Doomsday 2029

Originally posted by Ismail
This thread is the perfect example of why we are in this mess to begin with, and why you will fail. I read this thread with a smile, shaking my head all the while. Because you still haven't learned. As long as you keep up this typically american "our country is the center of world" mentality, you will lose. As long as your speaches open with the classic "Fellow Americans", you will lose. I am not american. I do not feel concerned by your post. You have not understood that we need to change the world, and that america is not the world. Cast away the mistakes of a self-centered, egotistical superpower, extend a hand to others who would bleed at your side to make the world, and not just america, a better place. Only then will you win.

Look...

To the people that made similar responses to the one I quoted above.

It should be common knowledge by now that America is going to CRASH the hardest. There will be more $h*t hitting the fan in this country than any other country in the world.

The Bigger they are... The Harder they Fall so to speak.

And what does the thread title say?

ATS American Revolution... (My speech before SHTF)

For those of you that don't live in the USA, .... All I'm trying to do is remind people how divided we really are in this country. We are nation of individuals.

even the majority of our own families are dysfunctional.

So, when the SHTF in America... Which is going to happen one way or another... What are you going to do?

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 02:18 PM by KyoZero

I will make a wager...though I don't know how we will collect...

Please let us bear in mind now that I am not talking about anyone in specific.

My wager is that if and when the SHTF most of the people talking about their guns and their revolution won't do a thing

Me? I'm not all that unhappy and while some conspiracies (JFK, Area 51) mean alot to me, I don't glom onto every CT that comes out. I really do believe most won't do a thing. Nothing personal...

-Kyo

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 02:46 PM by Maj35t1cI2

I'll make a wager you've never hurt another human being physically before am I right? I have no problem pulling the trigger I can assure you of that. If I have the choice, pull the trigger or go silently into the night, I'll take pull the trigger. I'll deal with God when I'm done. Talk is cheap my friend, and your worlds behind me in growing up if you wouldn't act the same way as me in the face of oppression.

Originally posted by KyoZero
I will make a wager...though I don't know how we will collect...

Please let us bear in mind now that I am not talking about anyone in specific.

My wager is that if and when the SHTF most of the people talking about their guns and their revolution won't do a thing

Me? I'm not all that unhappy and while some conspiracies (JFK, Area 51) mean alot to me, I don't glom onto every CT that comes out. I really do believe most won't do a thing. Nothing personal...

-Kyo

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 03:18 PM by Badfuture

Looks to me like classic govt trolling for conspiracy minded people that could be coerced into taking part in another govt false flag.

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 03:27 PM by KyoZero

reply to post by Maj35t1cI2

I would not be so hasty on that...What I see is so much talk. See the fault for both of us is that we don't know the reality of the situation. Have I hurt someone? physically? Yes I have and I prefer to not do it again. There is a difference between a guy breaking into my house and a revolution we start. Bear in mind nobody broke into my house and ok yes maybe you would indeed pick up a weapon. How do I know that you actually would? I don't...I just make my wager on an educated guess just like you did. Why would I have to hurt someone to know I don't want to hurt someone? I've never been shot in the face by a 12-guage but I am pretty darn sure I don't want to be.

See we are here in ATS where theories run wild. What I think of them is irrelevant but obviously we have our freedom of speech and thought. The one thing I am not crazy about is your assumption that I have alot of 'growing up' to do just because I am not in the same set of ideals as you. Who is to say that me as someone who wishes peace isn't the evolved one and that I am ahead of you in maturity? Nobody and that is the point. You can't simply assume I am immature because I don't share your opinion on how change should occur.

Actually...correction...yes you can assume that because you are free to do so but it sure doesn't make it right. Neither does my wager make what I believe is right. My opinion is this country isn't as bad as some make it out to be and my opinion is that most when called to grab a weapon won't have the nerve to shoot another. I have been Air Force for near 8 years now and it is quite true that I have never deployed to a war zone but a great deal of that is that my job was non-deployable when I was active.

The thing is, in my opinion I think I am far more prepared to shoot than most people who talk a huge game (once again...not saying you or anyone in specific). The reason I believe this is because I have gone through several scenarios. Some bloody and horrid and some peaceful and beautiful. I don't think these people are wimps...not by a long shot. I do however give more praise to those who can get out and make a change with a single bullet. I don't think it is impossible to do so and frankly I consider my lot in this country fairly good. No I certainly don't have everything and I do look at the homeless and the unemployed with great care and compassion. I make my change on a level that I think I can change; personal. I give money and time to help and I volunteer.

Here is another issue I have. Let's say your way does indeed work. We lose the NWO and now we are in charge. I would also wager this new leader or set of leaders will be just as corrupt after a short while because it is part of the human condition sadly. I admi myself I amprone to selfishness. I believe Socialism is the best idea ever...not what the Nazi's called Socialism...real Socialism. The problem is I know it would probably never work since humans are selfish and greedy.

So we get back to the revolution. It works...many die and we the civillians win. How long until the new leaders become corrupt and since when did a small force who wants a revolution speak for everyone else? What if we don't want your brand of government? Can we kill you next? Where does it end? Violence may be your way but don't think me immature or incapable of reaching your level because I don't want to kill. I have seen death from violence on my ambulance and I have caused a great deal of harm defending myself and I didn't like it. Yes I am glad I am ok but it didn't make me feel any better and all the martial arts I learned did nothing for me because I should have talked my way out of it before the situation turned as it did. Shame on me...and I mean that...not to make a point but to make a confession.

-Kyo

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 03:29 PM by KyoZero

reply to post by Badfuture

aaaaaaand there it is...

I disagree and now I am a troll. Hey thanks alot for the assumption that because I have my own mind that I am trolling. If you weren't saying that...I apologize but I feel that must have been steered towards me

Well...must be time to change my name to disinfo agent

-Kyo

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 03:41 PM by MajorDisaster

Just to try to put all this in perspective..... (again)

Alex Jones for example has an audience of millions, he's been screaming on about all this stuff for many years now, trying to incite a revolution, and still nothing.

Doomsday and Majestic, your courage is certainly admirable, but courage alone isn't going to carry the day here. You guys need to think with your brains and not your....... trigger-fingers. Forget about charging off into battle blowing people's heads off, and focus on what you can do as individuals to try to improve things.

Start growing your own natural food, start growing that certain super-useful plant, that could be your new currency and means of barter when the Monopoly Money officially becomes worthless. Help spread the word about the Blacklight Process and the Renaissance Charger and all the other new technologies that have the potential to replace Oil and Coal.

These are all things that all of us could be doing, right now, to make a real difference - and there are a lot more

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 04:05 PM by Badfuture

reply to post by KyoZero

KyoZero I'm not calling you a troll friend, you posted while I was writing mine.
I'm just saying that the Op could be trolling govt style.
If there is a revolution as the Op desires, people are going to have to be smarter than posting on public boards calling people to arms.
That's all I'm saying.

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 05:00 PM by KyoZero

reply to post by Badfuture

cheerfully withdrawn!

I had no clue...so please accept my sincere apology

-Kyo

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 09:52 PM by Doomsday 2029

Originally posted by Doomsday 2029

YouTube Link

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Well it looks like I'm still surrounded by Sheep.

Nobody had their eyes open during this video.

PAUSE it AT the 33 MARK.

Pause it at 33.

Tell me what you see.

Nobody is ready to fight with me, because you don't have your eyes open.

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 10:23 PM by MajorDisaster

reply to post by Doomsday 2029

Yes I know, Hollywood are in on a lot of the conspiracies.

Good eye, fearless leader! But you still don't have a Plan!

You're not going to be a very heroic Leader without a Plan, don't you think??

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 10:31 PM by Doomsday 2029

Originally posted by MajorDisaster
reply to post by Doomsday 2029

Yes I know, Hollywood are in on a lot of the conspiracies.

Good eye, fearless leader! But you still don't have a Plan!

You're not going to be a very heroic Leader without a Plan, don't you think??

The Plan is to wake up as many people as you can.

But how can you do this when I just put the enemies logo in front of your face Durring my speech?

My plan is still in the speech however... One inch at a time as a TEAM.

Maybe I just gained an inch with you...

Make no mistake... I don't care what your religion is... But the pyramid symbolism has got go. The All Seeing Eye is worse than the Swastika in my book.

That's your enemy.

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 10:32 PM by tamusan

reply to post by Doomsday 2029

If that were from real live news footage, I would be a little more concerned about it. However, it is from a movie.

meh-eh meh-eh... I'll go back to eating grass now with my herd.

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 10:36 PM by MajorDisaster

reply to post by Doomsday 2029

Yes yes, wake up lots of people, that's been going on for years already, especially since the internet came along.

So, wake up lots of people - then what?? What's the Plan, Stan?

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 10:36 PM by Doomsday 2029

Originally posted by tamusan
reply to post by Doomsday 2029

If that were from real live news footage, I would be a little more concerned about it. However, it is from a movie.

Yea... and Hollywood seems to speak a certain language.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

26 Flags... can I get 27?

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 10:38 PM by Doomsday 2029

Originally posted by MajorDisaster
reply to post by Doomsday 2029

Yes yes, wake up lots of people, that's been going on for years already, especially since the internet came along.

So, wake up lots of people - then what?? What's the Plan, Stan?

Have you seen the matrix triology?

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