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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 12:21 PM by SourGrapes
Originally posted by Styki

So basically unless you buying weapons and selling them to real thugs and murderers then you have nothing to worry about. They are not looking for people who are buying weapons for themselves, they are looking for people who are selling weapons to people who for whatever reason cannot buy weapons for themselves.

But whatever, lets just chalk up another point for the "evil" government.


Don't you get it? It's not really about 'law-abiding citizens' allegedly trafficking guns. It's about TPTB (or to be blunt: The President and his goons) finding cause to limit, and eventually eliminate, the U.S. citizens' ability to take up arms.

They can't simply make a new law, to make guns illegal. They ABSOLUTELY have to go around the legal system. Our administration is made up of lawyers, so they know what they are doing!

The drug cartel are NOT getting any, I will retype that...ANY of their weapons from normal u.s. citizens, who legally purchase these weapons.

The only people who maybe reaching over the border to ask an American for help with gun purchase, are citizens of Mexico; who are being raped, murdered, and brutalized, by the cartel.

The drug cartel get their weapons from the Mexican military. They break into military annexes, make deals with crooked military, and/or kill a Mexican soldier; and take his weapons. BTW, the Mexican military gets their weapons from.....you guessed it! THE U.S.A. But, don't be so easily deceived, as it's the U.S. government who is donating weapons to the Mexican military and police.

Another large percentage of weapons seized, are being linked to Pakistan and a few other ME places.

The U.S. weapons they are uncovering, don't have serial numbers. These guns are not from any U.S. gun shop.

The only U.S. citizen-purchased weapons, making a trek across the border, are the guns the average Joe (er, Jose) bring over to protect their families and businesses. Since guns are illegal in Mexico (go figure :@@ ) the average citizen only has two choices, in protecting his family. One: Purchase from the scumbag drug lords, who then know exactly what you're packing. Two: Purchase (albeit illegally) from some U.S. shmoe, dumb enough (or brave enough) to risk his freedom in making a few bucks on what is already over-priced. What could the mark-up be? I would doubt it's anything substantial, given today's gun and ammo prices.

So, this story is malarky! Don't buy it.

BTW, something to think about; we're discussing Mexico and their violence and they obviously need something to protect their family. The police and military just can't do it; and guns are ILLEGAL.

Know why we Americans will do what ever is necessary to keep our guns? Because we know what to expect, when they're gone.

Our neighbor is getting raped and we're expected to turn a blind eye? If any one of us is caught helping out the victim, we ALL risk losing our own security. "Johnny if I catch you with another spit ball, the whole class will have to stay late!"


People who are legally in the United States and have clean criminal records, but are facing economic problems are often recruited by traffickers to buy weapons on their behalf in order to shield themselves from scrutiny.


Yeah, I like the way they decided to word this spin-fest!


Edit: Oy, so many spelling and grammatical errors. Probably still are, but I really have to get back to my paper. (Dang it, ATS. You keep distracting me!)

[edit on 1-7-2009 by SourGrapes]


reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 12:25 PM by Gorman91
reply to post by larphillips



Where are other sources of this?

It's disgusting if true, but I've been sing an increase in fake news lately.

Just look for other sources.

EDIT


looked up the author. She seems legit and concerned for the community.

Very likely a legit story.

[edit on 1-7-2009 by Gorman91]


reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 12:34 PM by larphillips
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to
post by larphillips



Where are other sources of this?

It's disgusting if true, but I've been sing an increase in fake news lately.

Just look for other sources.

EDIT


looked up the author. She seems legit and concerned for the community.

Very likely a legit story.

[edit on 1-7-2009 by Gorman91]


Part of the problem (as someone mentioned in a previous post) is the general lack of MSM coverage of this story. This is something that more people need to know about. Instead, it is hidden.


reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 12:43 PM by Miraj
reply to post by larphillips



Quite honestly, I hope these guys don't decide to kick down my door.

If they announced themselves, I'd have no choice but to comply. But if they decided to just kick in the door, they would have a lot to worry about. I would assume I'm deal with burgulars.

Well, if they came knocking on the door, I'd at least stall them, asking for a warrant ect..

Is tyranny in full motion? Just about it seems..


reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 02:06 PM by VitalOverdose
reply to post by Alien Mind



Or shoe thowing skills..lol.



reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 02:29 PM by DerelictJ
I read this on another source. Search and confiscation with no warrant, no surprise. Are you really surprised? Obamination of the people to put it bluntly. Same continuing agenda, different skin color.

I believe it will continue under the most bogus and unrelated circumstances for a long time coming. I recall after the "patriot act" was signed that homes all over the nation were being raided in the middle of the night like covert-op $hit rendering it as cases of mistaken identity. Not to mention bizarre instances like high schoolers being detained for texting in class.

A few months ago the little town newspaper in my area ran an article about local shops running out of ammo. Well, there's many reasons for that but i'd like to believe that one of them is genuine concern for liberty.

As we approach this 4th of July, remember that the nation we fight for today, in whatever way, is dwindling into something which is unrecognizable to which this holiday is celebrated for.

"Here, have a Prozac. American Idol is on."


If duty calls, you rise to the occasion.


I'll pass it along:
Obamessiatus; infected believe that the anointed one can do no wrong. Rational thought is the first to go with everything becoming the negative of reality; such as ‘evil’ becoming ‘good’, ‘socialism’ becoming ‘free market’, ‘fascism’ becoming ‘freedom’, ‘higher taxes’ becoming ‘tax cuts’ and ‘governmental extortion’ becoming ‘spreading the wealth’. The infected exhibit glazed over eyes as they mumble, “yes we can” while dribbling at the mouth and standing with their hand out.


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