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The people elected the Leftist politicians who allowed it to happen. Corporations dont write immigration law.
And now the sun comes up today and california has no money. So what happens.
Originally posted by SIEGE
I like the sound of "The Republic of California".
Originally posted by Deianera
True, true, true; unfortunately so.
I spent half of my life in California; I left some time ago for Ohio because I was afraid that if I didn't my life was going to be cut short.
I lived in the San Francisco area. It is as expensive as New York or D.C. but the wages are no higher than the Midwest- generally $6 - 8.00 an hour. Yes, there are jobs that pay more- nice work if you can get it! I got tired of working 2 or 3 jobs just to pay rent & put food on the table. It gets old very fast.
The one bedroom apartment I have now at $450.00 a month would be about $1200.00 a month in San Francisco- you get the idea. My jobs back then when I was still there? I was a dress designer. The firms I worked for paid $10.00 an hour at most; then nothing- all of the jobs in the garment industry began being outsourced to be done overseas in China & Central America by folks that are little more than slaves.
I'm glad I left when I did. Since I left in '94, the state has had one disaster after another- Enron, earthquakes, & now the place is in its 6th year of drought. Also worth mentioning are the drug dealers, the gangs, the horrible brush fires, & the rising air pollution in the state. Nasty.
As for Cal being a nanny state, I never saw evidence of that. The government began phasing out a lot of public aid in '91; Pres. Clinton's cap on welfare did the rest. If people go there to get such benefits, they're going there to die. To paraphrase Woody Guthrie: You won't get nowhere in California if you don't have the dough-re-mi. The many thousands of homeless there are dying in the streets every day.
What goes around, comes around- when working people who pay taxes can't afford to live on what they make, they have to go elsewhere. I left. A quarter million more people move out than move into that state every year. It's been losing population for the above reasons for at least 20 years. How does such an expensive state to live in survive without us little people working & paying our taxes? It CAN'T. No living wage jobs- no working stiffs making things happen. I'm not sorry to no longer be paying taxes to a bottomless pit of an economy that is going nowhere but down. The state used to be the world's 6th largest economy when I was there- Not Anymore!
In case anyone wants to know, there definitely will be a domino effect on many other states. It's affecting Ohio & many other places. We have an unemployment rate of over 10% in Ohio. There is going to have to be a revolution in America when honest working people can't make a living. "Tea Parties" are not enough. Everyone has just about had it.
I get sick of people calling this lousy economy a "recession"- it's time to call a spade a spade, for heaven's sake. It is a depression. Why else are homeless tent cities springing up all over this country? What's next?
reply to post by projectvxn
Originally posted by Gorman91
My question is this. Can the federal government take over the state if it is collapsing and eroding away? Could that be the forerunner to more federal control?
Originally posted by midnightbrigade
Hmmm...could be seeing a reverse of the "Grapes of Wrath" type scenario... Please, for the love of all that's good and holy, don't come BACK to Oklahoma.
Our state is doing pretty good, and we don't need morons who will pay $500,000 for a home that's only worth $100,000 driving up our cost of living.
Originally posted by Jadette
And while, sure, you can always save MORE for a rainy day, but there's a lot of things that you really need in order to provide you and your family a good life. You have the money, so why not?
But then, your hours at work get cut back. But your boss reassures you, it'll be fine soon, back to normal. And you trust him, after all, shouldn't he know? So you spend savings, you just muddle through for a while. Until your hours get cut back more. And you hear people talking about layoffs. And then, you lose your job.
California didn't get here by being any different than anyone else.
Originally posted by Jim Scott
Actually, I live in California and do not feel this occurring. Mortgage companies are working with homeowners that qualify for resetting of mortgages. Some incomes are diminished and do not qualify....
Originally posted by sos37
reply to post by projectvxn
Not a rosy picture you paint. But with the taxes Californians pay, the unemployment, the rampant cuts on what some consider basic services and programs and with the coming civil unrest, I simply cannot fathom why anyone would want to live in that state. Time to get the hell out and find a new place to live.